From emailit2 at aol.com Thu Jul 2 00:06:54 2009 From: emailit2 at aol.com (emailit2@aol.com) Date: Thu Jul 2 00:12:15 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Roland S-series questions S-550, S-330, etc. Message-ID: <8CBC8E1ABA11B4A-12CC-1150@FWM-D30.sysops.aol.com> I am curious if one might be able to install a zip drive, or compact flash type reader/writer into the S-550. Has anyone tried to install anything other than the standard floppy drive into a S-550, might it be possible? Also, anyone know about the sequencer software, and dongle for the S-series units. I believe they are labeled for use with their intended sampler model, but could, and or is the software, and dongles interchangeable with other models? Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Dave ?? From bruce at skeletonhome.com Thu Jul 2 09:45:02 2009 From: bruce at skeletonhome.com (Bruce Tovsky) Date: Thu Jul 2 09:55:50 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Roland S-series questions S-550, S-330, etc. In-Reply-To: <8CBC8E1ABA11B4A-12CC-1150@FWM-D30.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CBC8E1ABA11B4A-12CC-1150@FWM-D30.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <9AB7025F-86C1-42DB-9934-E88BB56E098A@skeletonhome.com> the s series can only communicate to external scsi devices with the optional scsi adapter board. there is no way to swap out the internal floppy for some other kind of device without rewriting the system software and likely extreme circuit mods. i guess there could be some arcane way of hacking the scsi controller slot, but again, software rewrite would be part of the equation. best b On Jul 2, 2009, at 12:06 AM, emailit2@aol.com wrote: > I am curious if one might be able to install a zip drive, or > compact flash type reader/writer into the S-550. > Has anyone tried to install anything other than the standard floppy > drive into a S-550, might it be possible? > > > > > > Also, anyone know about the sequencer software, and dongle for the > S-series units. I believe they are labeled for use with their > intended sampler model, but could, and or is the software, and > dongles interchangeable with other models? > > > > > Any insight is greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/ > sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From acelera at mac.com Thu Jul 2 11:33:32 2009 From: acelera at mac.com (Acelera) Date: Thu Jul 2 11:33:49 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Roland S-series questions S-550, S-330, etc. In-Reply-To: <9AB7025F-86C1-42DB-9934-E88BB56E098A@skeletonhome.com> References: <8CBC8E1ABA11B4A-12CC-1150@FWM-D30.sysops.aol.com> <9AB7025F-86C1-42DB-9934-E88BB56E098A@skeletonhome.com> Message-ID: <004301c9fb2a$7745ef80$65d1ce80$@com> What about the S-770? Mine came without the internal 40 mb (!) drive so I've been thinking about storage options for some time as I'm growing old of the floppy loading routine. On a related note, where can one purchase the Roland CD-Roms these days? Many thanks Vic -----Original Message----- From: sgroup-bounces+acelera=mac.com@sgroup.ca [mailto:sgroup-bounces+acelera=mac.com@sgroup.ca] On Behalf Of Bruce Tovsky Sent: 02 July 2009 14:45 To: sgroup sgroup Subject: Re: [sgroup] Roland S-series questions S-550, S-330, etc. the s series can only communicate to external scsi devices with the optional scsi adapter board. there is no way to swap out the internal floppy for some other kind of device without rewriting the system software and likely extreme circuit mods. i guess there could be some arcane way of hacking the scsi controller slot, but again, software rewrite would be part of the equation. best b On Jul 2, 2009, at 12:06 AM, emailit2@aol.com wrote: > I am curious if one might be able to install a zip drive, or > compact flash type reader/writer into the S-550. > Has anyone tried to install anything other than the standard floppy > drive into a S-550, might it be possible? > > > > > > Also, anyone know about the sequencer software, and dongle for the > S-series units. I believe they are labeled for use with their > intended sampler model, but could, and or is the software, and > dongles interchangeable with other models? > > > > > Any insight is greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/ > sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _______________________________________________ Sent by the sgroup mailing list sgroup@sgroup.ca For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From bruce at skeletonhome.com Thu Jul 2 11:37:04 2009 From: bruce at skeletonhome.com (Bruce Tovsky) Date: Thu Jul 2 11:37:17 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Roland S-series questions S-550, S-330, etc. In-Reply-To: <004301c9fb2a$7745ef80$65d1ce80$@com> References: <8CBC8E1ABA11B4A-12CC-1150@FWM-D30.sysops.aol.com> <9AB7025F-86C1-42DB-9934-E88BB56E098A@skeletonhome.com> <004301c9fb2a$7745ef80$65d1ce80$@com> Message-ID: <6FE7BD23-9414-44F7-BE7F-1651035623B6@skeletonhome.com> try ebay. b On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Acelera wrote: > What about the S-770? Mine came without the internal 40 mb (!) > drive so I've > been thinking about storage options for some time as I'm growing > old of the > floppy loading routine. > > On a related note, where can one purchase the Roland CD-Roms these > days? > > Many thanks > > Vic > > -----Original Message----- > From: sgroup-bounces+acelera=mac.com@sgroup.ca > [mailto:sgroup-bounces+acelera=mac.com@sgroup.ca] On Behalf Of > Bruce Tovsky > Sent: 02 July 2009 14:45 > To: sgroup sgroup > Subject: Re: [sgroup] Roland S-series questions S-550, S-330, etc. > > the s series can only communicate to external scsi devices with the > optional scsi adapter board. there is no way to swap out the internal > floppy for some other kind of device without rewriting the system > software and likely extreme circuit mods. i guess there could be some > arcane way of hacking the scsi controller slot, but again, software > rewrite would be part of the equation. > best > b > > On Jul 2, 2009, at 12:06 AM, emailit2@aol.com wrote: > >> I am curious if one might be able to install a zip drive, or >> compact flash type reader/writer into the S-550. >> Has anyone tried to install anything other than the standard floppy >> drive into a S-550, might it be possible? >> >> >> >> >> >> Also, anyone know about the sequencer software, and dongle for the >> S-series units. I believe they are labeled for use with their >> intended sampler model, but could, and or is the software, and >> dongles interchangeable with other models? >> >> >> >> >> Any insight is greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent by the sgroup mailing list >> sgroup@sgroup.ca >> For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/ >> sgroup >> See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > _______________________________________________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/ > sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > From donalonse at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 12:30:24 2009 From: donalonse at gmail.com (Jean-Robert Harvey) Date: Thu Jul 2 12:34:31 2009 Subject: [sgroup] RE: Roland S-series questions S-550, S-330, etc. Message-ID: > > Also, anyone know about the sequencer software, and dongle for the S-series > units. I believe they are labeled for use with their intended sampler model, > but could, and or is the software, and dongles interchangeable with other > models? The sequencer package comes in two models: SYS-333 and SYS-553. That is both software and dongle are model specific. You can't actually use SYS-333 with an S-550 sampler. I learned this the hard way. I bought the SYS-333 on eBay and tried to use the dongle with a copy of 553 software. All I got is an error message stating incorect dongle. The sequencer package is a fine piece of software. It allows you to create a sequence and embed sample within it. You can then share your sequence disks with other S-sampler owners. The dongle is only needed for write operations, not for reading. Hope that helps, Jean-Robert From emailit2 at aol.com Thu Jul 2 14:10:33 2009 From: emailit2 at aol.com (emailit2@aol.com) Date: Thu Jul 2 14:11:22 2009 Subject: [sgroup] RE: Roland S-series questions S-550, S-330, etc. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CBC95786A6F78A-A3C-437@FWM-D30.sysops.aol.com> If anyone has the S-550 sequencer software, and dongle available for sale let me know. Thanks Dave? -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Robert Harvey To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Sent: Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:30 am Subject: [sgroup] RE: Roland S-series questions S-550, S-330, etc. > > Also, anyone know about the sequencer software, and dongle for the S-series > units. I believe they are labeled for use with their intended sampler model, > but could, and or is the software, and dongles interchangeable with other > models? The sequencer package comes in two models: SYS-333 and SYS-553. That is both software and dongle are model specific. You can't actually use SYS-333 with an S-550 sampler. I learned this the hard way. I bought the SYS-333 on eBay and tried to use the dongle with a copy of 553 software. All I got is an error message stating incorect dongle. The sequencer package is a fine piece of software. It allows you to create a sequence and embed sample within it. You can then share your sequence disks with other S-sampler owners. The dongle is only needed for write operations, not for reading. Hope that helps, Jean-Robert _______________________________________________ Sent by the sgroup mailing list sgroup@sgroup.ca For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From igg.debus at t-online.de Thu Jul 2 15:06:24 2009 From: igg.debus at t-online.de (Ingo Debus) Date: Thu Jul 2 15:22:20 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Roland S-series questions S-550, S-330, etc. In-Reply-To: <004301c9fb2a$7745ef80$65d1ce80$@com> References: <8CBC8E1ABA11B4A-12CC-1150@FWM-D30.sysops.aol.com> <9AB7025F-86C1-42DB-9934-E88BB56E098A@skeletonhome.com> <004301c9fb2a$7745ef80$65d1ce80$@com> Message-ID: Am 02.07.2009 um 17:33 schrieb Acelera: > What about the S-770? Mine came without the internal 40 mb (!) > drive so I've > been thinking about storage options for some time as I'm growing > old of the > floppy loading routine. I've been using my S-760 with an external SCSI ZIP drive for many years. This is way way faster than floppy. Ingo From askuse at ody.ca Thu Jul 2 21:53:31 2009 From: askuse at ody.ca (Andy Skuse) Date: Thu Jul 2 21:53:38 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Roland S-series questions S-550, S-330, etc. In-Reply-To: References: <8CBC8E1ABA11B4A-12CC-1150@FWM-D30.sysops.aol.com> <9AB7025F-86C1-42DB-9934-E88BB56E098A@skeletonhome.com> <004301c9fb2a$7745ef80$65d1ce80$@com> Message-ID: On 2-Jul-09, at 3:06 PM, Ingo Debus wrote: > Am 02.07.2009 um 17:33 schrieb Acelera: > >> What about the S-770? Mine came without the internal 40 mb (!) >> drive so I've >> been thinking about storage options for some time as I'm growing >> old of the >> floppy loading routine. > > I've been using my S-760 with an external SCSI ZIP drive for many > years. This is way way faster than floppy. > > Ingo You can also use SyQuest EZ 135 MB and 230 MB External SCSI Drives, or Iomega Jaz drives (you'll need an adapter to go from 50 pin to 25 pin SCSI) if you can find them. Andy ------- www.rainycitynights.com From kyussisgod at hotmail.com Thu Jul 2 16:01:35 2009 From: kyussisgod at hotmail.com (Joshua Homme) Date: Sun Jul 5 00:36:35 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Roland S-10 repair/parts - QD drive needs new belt Message-ID: Hello, anyone have a line on where I can get a new belt? I attached a pic of the Quick Disk drive removed from the synth. You can see it wraps around the small brass gear to the large plastic gear. I'm assuming any belt will do as long as its a "belt" and not a rubber band and its the correct tension and length. If anyone has any info where I can get one or two or three, that would be great! Thank you. _________________________________________________________________ Internet explorer 8 lets you browse the web faster. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655582 From xirin6 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 5 22:50:29 2009 From: xirin6 at yahoo.com (kevin kelley) Date: Sun Jul 5 22:57:42 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Free s-330 for parts Message-ID: <996939.94921.qm@web36106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have a s-330 that I had removed the drive from for another this unit is taken apart and I will put it back together somewhat if needed but if you need parts everything worked 100% before I took out the drive. Free to a good home. My zip code is 33701 buyer only needs to pay for shipping. Kevin Kelley p.s. I also have the systems disk. From johnplaiduk at yahoo.co.uk Mon Jul 6 14:17:10 2009 From: johnplaiduk at yahoo.co.uk (JH) Date: Mon Jul 6 14:24:00 2009 Subject: [sgroup] S760 RGB to scart cable? Sync lines to make own lead? Message-ID: <09A732FF-9906-40E7-91BB-7065471DBBE7@yahoo.co.uk> I've posted this up on the yahoo group, but i'll run it again here..... I've contacted a tech with regards to wiring up a lead for my S760 to come out from to RGB socket and then to go to a SCART socket..... This is all really above my head, but my tech is asking questions with regards to SYNC lines..... as i said it means nothing to me, but i did show them the S760 monitor page in my manual, and also the very useful S760 webpage- monitor link.... http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/clouzeau/s760/monitor.htm My tech is asking: "The main question would be, what to do about the VSYNC and HSYNC lines with regards to SCART. It expects a combined composite sync. Really it's just the working pinouts that we need. I've had a look on that S760 monitor page, but there's no definite information regarding SCART. TTL is also 5v digital. SCART is 1v p2p." This means nothing to me.... but can someone please help out if they know the info needed? Its just to wire an RGB lead to SCART socket for the S760.. From synpro at networld.at Tue Jul 7 16:59:59 2009 From: synpro at networld.at (Peter Ullrich) Date: Tue Jul 7 17:31:16 2009 Subject: [sgroup] S760 RGB to scart cable? Sync lines to make own lead? In-Reply-To: <09A732FF-9906-40E7-91BB-7065471DBBE7@yahoo.co.uk> References: <09A732FF-9906-40E7-91BB-7065471DBBE7@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <1247000399.4a53b74f88f92@webmail.networld.at> Hi! Have a look at this circuit: http://hem.passagen.se/tomasf/elektronik/cga2scart.zip This circuit should be your solution - but I have not tested it with my S-760 samplers yet. Please let us know if you have success with it! Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician Private Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich .oooO ( ) Oooo. \ ( ( ) -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ Zitat von JH : > I've posted this up on the yahoo group, but i'll run it again here..... > I've contacted a tech with regards to wiring up a lead for my S760 to > come out > from to RGB socket and then to go to a SCART socket..... > This is all really above my head, but my tech is asking questions with > regards > to SYNC lines..... as i said it means nothing to me, but i did show > them the > S760 monitor page in my manual, and also the very useful S760 webpage- > monitor > link.... http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/clouzeau/s760/monitor.htm > My tech is asking: > "The main question would be, what to do about the VSYNC and HSYNC lines > with regards to SCART. It expects a combined composite sync. > > Really it's just the working pinouts that we need. > > I've had a look on that S760 monitor page, but there's no definite > information > regarding SCART. TTL is also 5v digital. SCART is 1v p2p." > > This means nothing to me.... but can someone please help out if they > know the > info needed? > > Its just to wire an RGB lead to SCART socket for the S760.. > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. ---------------------------------- Ein Service von http://www.news.at From synpro at networld.at Tue Jul 7 18:28:17 2009 From: synpro at networld.at (Peter Ullrich) Date: Tue Jul 7 18:28:24 2009 Subject: [sgroup] S760 RGB to scart cable? Sync lines to make own lead? In-Reply-To: <1247000399.4a53b74f88f92@webmail.networld.at> References: <09A732FF-9906-40E7-91BB-7065471DBBE7@yahoo.co.uk> <1247000399.4a53b74f88f92@webmail.networld.at> Message-ID: <1247005697.4a53cc01ea8fa@webmail.networld.at> Sorry, I need to clarify something: In front of the mentioned adapter circuit you need to have the Roland S-760 to CGA cable as mentioned in the manual - you can also find it on the monitor page you mentioned: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/clouzeau/s760/images/rgb25i.gif Ciao Peter > Hi! > > Have a look at this circuit: > http://hem.passagen.se/tomasf/elektronik/cga2scart.zip > > This circuit should be your solution - but I have not tested it with my > S-760 > samplers yet. Please let us know if you have success with it! > > Ciao > Peter > > \|/ > (o o) > --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ > Ing. Peter Ullrich > Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician > Private Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich > .oooO > ( ) Oooo. > \ ( ( ) > -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- > (_/ > > > > > Zitat von JH : > > > I've posted this up on the yahoo group, but i'll run it again here..... > > I've contacted a tech with regards to wiring up a lead for my S760 to > > come out > > from to RGB socket and then to go to a SCART socket..... > > This is all really above my head, but my tech is asking questions with > > regards > > to SYNC lines..... as i said it means nothing to me, but i did show > > them the > > S760 monitor page in my manual, and also the very useful S760 webpage- > > monitor > > link.... http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/clouzeau/s760/monitor.htm > > My tech is asking: > > "The main question would be, what to do about the VSYNC and HSYNC lines > > with regards to SCART. It expects a combined composite sync. > > > > Really it's just the working pinouts that we need. > > > > I've had a look on that S760 monitor page, but there's no definite > > information > > regarding SCART. TTL is also 5v digital. SCART is 1v p2p." > > > > This means nothing to me.... but can someone please help out if they > > know the > > info needed? > > > > Its just to wire an RGB lead to SCART socket for the S760.. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > > sgroup@sgroup.ca > > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > ---------------------------------- > Ein Service von http://www.news.at > _______________________________________________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. ---------------------------------- Ein Service von http://www.news.at From johnplaiduk at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jul 8 04:17:43 2009 From: johnplaiduk at yahoo.co.uk (JH) Date: Wed Jul 8 04:17:50 2009 Subject: [sgroup] S760 RGB to scart cable? Sync lines to make own lead? In-Reply-To: <1247038931.4a544dd3aebc7@webmail.networld.at> References: <09A732FF-9906-40E7-91BB-7065471DBBE7@yahoo.co.uk> <1247000399.4a53b74f88f92@webmail.networld.at> <1247005697.4a53cc01ea8fa@webmail.networld.at> <1247038931.4a544dd3aebc7@webmail.networld.at> Message-ID: <0EEC4CCB-9AB1-415E-A4F8-BE02359E51E5@yahoo.co.uk> Thanks so much for your help Peter!!! I've forwarded on all the info to my tech, and once we've a cable made up, will report back to the group. John On 8 Jul 2009, at 08:42, Peter Ullrich wrote: > Hi John! > > I made a schematic that should work as S760 to SCART Interface. > If you try it out please let us know if it works! > > Ciao > Peter > > \|/ > (o o) > --oOOO--(_)-- > OOOo------------------------------------------------------ > Ing. Peter Ullrich > Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician > Private Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich > .oooO > ( ) Oooo. > \ ( ( ) > ----- > \_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- > (_/ > > ---------------------------------- > Ein Service von http://www.news.at > From synpro at networld.at Wed Jul 8 03:42:11 2009 From: synpro at networld.at (Peter Ullrich) Date: Sat Jul 11 09:26:55 2009 Subject: [sgroup] S760 RGB to scart cable? Sync lines to make own lead? In-Reply-To: <1247005697.4a53cc01ea8fa@webmail.networld.at> References: <09A732FF-9906-40E7-91BB-7065471DBBE7@yahoo.co.uk> <1247000399.4a53b74f88f92@webmail.networld.at> <1247005697.4a53cc01ea8fa@webmail.networld.at> Message-ID: <1247038931.4a544dd3aebc7@webmail.networld.at> Hi John! I made a schematic that should work as S760 to SCART Interface. If you try it out please let us know if it works! Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician Private Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich .oooO ( ) Oooo. \ ( ( ) -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ ---------------------------------- Ein Service von http://www.news.at From werbemuelleimer at gmx.net Sun Jul 12 17:54:48 2009 From: werbemuelleimer at gmx.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Oliver_L=F6bbert=22?=) Date: Sun Jul 12 17:54:55 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Re: S760 RGB to scart cable? Sync lines to make own lead? (Peter Ullrich) In-Reply-To: <20090711160002.C6A131B5AD5@s5.syonex.com> References: <20090711160002.C6A131B5AD5@s5.syonex.com> Message-ID: <20090712215448.80470@gmx.net> Hi Peter, where can i find the Schematic? On your webseite? Greetz Oliver -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:00:02 -0400 (EDT) > Von: sgroup-request@sgroup.ca > An: sgroup@sgroup.ca > Betreff: sgroup Digest, Vol 37, Issue 7 > Send sgroup mailing list submissions to > sgroup@sgroup.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sgroup-request@sgroup.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sgroup-owner@sgroup.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of sgroup digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: S760 RGB to scart cable? Sync lines to make own lead? > (Peter Ullrich) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:42:11 +0200 > From: Peter Ullrich > Subject: Re: [sgroup] S760 RGB to scart cable? Sync lines to make own > lead? > To: JH , sgroup@sgroup.ca > Message-ID: <1247038931.4a544dd3aebc7@webmail.networld.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi John! > > I made a schematic that should work as S760 to SCART Interface. > If you try it out please let us know if it works! > > Ciao > Peter > > \|/ > (o o) > --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ > Ing. Peter Ullrich > Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician > Private Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich > .oooO > ( ) Oooo. > \ ( ( ) > -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- > (_/ > > ---------------------------------- > Ein Service von http://www.news.at > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > End of sgroup Digest, Vol 37, Issue 7 > ************************************* From hcarlos at cisco.com Fri Jul 17 04:28:44 2009 From: hcarlos at cisco.com (Carlos Hernanz (hcarlos)) Date: Fri Jul 17 04:38:29 2009 Subject: [sgroup] ROLAND S-10 SAMPLER EPROM versions Message-ID: <6C1B3CCB118B60489C2F4DB2052EEF8307D79BD2@xmb-ams-33b.emea.cisco.com> Hi everyone, I've recently purchased an old roland S-10 sampler and found that it's rom version it's 1.07. It seems not to support sysex so I really need to upgrade it to a newer version. Do you guys know where can I find either: 1) EPROM upgrade to purchase 2) EPROM binary files of the operating system of the S-10, for me to burn a new eprom? Thanks in advance, From xirin6 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 17 14:21:24 2009 From: xirin6 at yahoo.com (kevin kelley) Date: Fri Jul 17 14:21:28 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Mouse port ?? Message-ID: <997934.4867.qm@web36101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hello I have read that when an improper mouse has been plugged in that it can cause the mouse port on the Roland SXXX to fail or no longer work properly. Is there an easy way to fix this issue ? From 2kilan at cox.net Sun Jul 19 01:21:17 2009 From: 2kilan at cox.net (Damian) Date: Sun Jul 19 01:52:34 2009 Subject: [sgroup] New W-30 owner! Message-ID: <043C18CA25004D058C50E4355518B76E@amd64> Hello! I have ordered the SCSI upgrade for my W-30. Any suggestions on where to source the right type of external scsi cdrom unit and external scsi hard drive that will work with the W-30? Cheers! Damian. From s10manager at wish.net Mon Jul 20 16:56:36 2009 From: s10manager at wish.net (S-10 Manager) Date: Mon Jul 20 17:07:37 2009 Subject: [sgroup] ROLAND S-10 SAMPLER EPROM versions References: <6C1B3CCB118B60489C2F4DB2052EEF8307D79BD2@xmb-ams-33b.emea.cisco.com> Message-ID: <719800B43563438AB932E815B60D4E50@woonkamer> Hi all, Unfortunately, the S-10 Manager site has been blocked by Tripod/Lycos for some reason, but we've managed to open a new account, so the address has changed: http://members.lycos.nl/s10man Carlos, you can find the EPROM binary file in the download section, use it at your own risk; we found the file some years ago on the internet but we're not able to test it Good Luck! The S-10 Manager Team ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos Hernanz (hcarlos)" To: Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:28 AM Subject: [sgroup] ROLAND S-10 SAMPLER EPROM versions Hi everyone, I've recently purchased an old roland S-10 sampler and found that it's rom version it's 1.07. It seems not to support sysex so I really need to upgrade it to a newer version. Do you guys know where can I find either: 1) EPROM upgrade to purchase 2) EPROM binary files of the operating system of the S-10, for me to burn a new eprom? Thanks in advance, From musos at icon.co.za Wed Jul 22 18:47:14 2009 From: musos at icon.co.za (Colin Shapiro) Date: Wed Jul 22 19:26:58 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Mouse port ?? In-Reply-To: <997934.4867.qm@web36101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <997934.4867.qm@web36101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > hello I have read that when an improper mouse has been plugged in >that it can cause the mouse port on the Roland SXXX to fail or no >longer work properly. Is there an easy way to fix this issue ? Sadly that happened to me. I plugged a "normal" mouse into my S550 and it fried whatever component deals with the mouse. I now have to use the front panel buttons. I don't know of a fix for this - if you hear of anything, please let me know.... Regards - Colin From igg.debus at t-online.de Thu Jul 23 08:09:59 2009 From: igg.debus at t-online.de (Ingo Debus) Date: Thu Jul 23 08:10:30 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Mouse port ?? In-Reply-To: References: <997934.4867.qm@web36101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8A59E05D-0C23-4B84-8614-09A6C44B6D76@t-online.de> Am 23.07.2009 um 00:47 schrieb Colin Shapiro: >> hello I have read that when an improper mouse has been plugged in >> that it can cause the mouse port on the Roland SXXX to fail or no >> longer work properly. Is there an easy way to fix this issue ? > > Sadly that happened to me. > I plugged a "normal" mouse into my S550 and it fried whatever > component deals with the mouse. I now have to use the front panel > buttons. > > I don't know of a fix for this - if you hear of anything, please > let me know.... On the S-330, pin 5 of the ext control jack is connected to +5V via a fuse resistor. Don't know for the S-550, but since it's the same mouse, it's probably just the same here. You could check the voltage on pin 5 (pin 9 is ground) with a voltmeter. If there's no voltage present, most probably the fuse resistor is blown. The schematic says it's value is 0.15 ohms. Ingo From musos at icon.co.za Thu Jul 23 08:55:45 2009 From: musos at icon.co.za (Colin Shapiro) Date: Thu Jul 23 08:56:01 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Mouse port ?? In-Reply-To: <1248333010.4a680cd2d5c9e@webmail.networld.at> References: <997934.4867.qm@web36101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1248333010.4a680cd2d5c9e@webmail.networld.at> Message-ID: Many thanks to Peter Ullrich and Ingo Debus for your diagrams and suggestions. **Much** appreciated!!! I will get my techie friend to look at this as soon as he can... I'm useless with a soldering iron. Best regards - Colin From synpro at networld.at Thu Jul 23 03:10:10 2009 From: synpro at networld.at (Peter Ullrich) Date: Thu Jul 23 13:39:42 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Mouse port ?? In-Reply-To: References: <997934.4867.qm@web36101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1248333010.4a680cd2d5c9e@webmail.networld.at> Hallo Colin! Normally the Roland samplers have a fuse resistor at the mouse port. At least the S330 has it - I don't have the S550 schematics here so I can't have a look at that one. But I think it is the same. Have a look at the attached schematics. (Sorry the schematics will be killed for the group emails - ask me per private email if you need it). But the S50 doesn't have the fuse resistor and not the buffer between the port and ASIC as you can see here: http://rrzs42.uni-regensburg.de/~hep09515/keyboards/s-50/Schematics/600dpi/CPU-Board1.tif Ciao Peter http://come.to/ullrich Zitat von Colin Shapiro : > > hello I have read that when an improper mouse has been plugged in > >that it can cause the mouse port on the Roland SXXX to fail or no > >longer work properly. Is there an easy way to fix this issue ? > > Sadly that happened to me. > I plugged a "normal" mouse into my S550 and it fried whatever > component deals with the mouse. I now have to use the front panel > buttons. > > I don't know of a fix for this - if you hear of anything, please let > me know.... > > Regards - Colin > _______________________________________________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. ---------------------------------- Ein Service von http://www.news.at From david at roth-music.com Thu Jul 23 14:05:08 2009 From: david at roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Date: Thu Jul 23 14:11:56 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Mouse port ?? In-Reply-To: <8A59E05D-0C23-4B84-8614-09A6C44B6D76@t-online.de> References: <997934.4867.qm@web36101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8A59E05D-0C23-4B84-8614-09A6C44B6D76@t-online.de> Message-ID: <01E644EE-6657-4B44-BAA3-3DE43CD93462@roth-music.com> Ingo, Would it be possible to make a converter cable that would plug into the S-330 and the other end of the cable would be USB to plug-in a regular USB mouse? Was there a good reason why Roland designed it this way, or was it to sell a propriety mouse? Best regards, David On Jul 23, 2009, at 8:09 AM, Ingo Debus wrote: > > Am 23.07.2009 um 00:47 schrieb Colin Shapiro: > >>> hello I have read that when an improper mouse has been plugged in >>> that it can cause the mouse port on the Roland SXXX to fail or no >>> longer work properly. Is there an easy way to fix this issue ? >> >> Sadly that happened to me. >> I plugged a "normal" mouse into my S550 and it fried whatever >> component deals with the mouse. I now have to use the front panel >> buttons. >> >> I don't know of a fix for this - if you hear of anything, please >> let me know.... > > On the S-330, pin 5 of the ext control jack is connected to +5V via > a fuse resistor. Don't know for the S-550, but since it's the same > mouse, it's probably just the same here. You could check the voltage > on pin 5 (pin 9 is ground) with a voltmeter. If there's no voltage > present, most probably the fuse resistor is blown. The schematic > says it's value is 0.15 ohms. > > Ingo > _______________________________________________ From emailit2 at aol.com Thu Jul 23 19:59:22 2009 From: emailit2 at aol.com (emailit2@aol.com) Date: Thu Jul 23 19:59:46 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Mouse port ?? In-Reply-To: <01E644EE-6657-4B44-BAA3-3DE43CD93462@roth-music.com> References: <997934.4867.qm@web36101.mail.mud.yahoo.com><8A59E05D-0C23-4B84-8614-09A6C44B6D76@t-online.de> <01E644EE-6657-4B44-BAA3-3DE43CD93462@roth-music.com> Message-ID: <8CBDA08BC16BF63-9F8-1305@FWM-M44.sysops.aol.com> There was a recent eBay auction where a guy was selling a?USB to Serial mouse converter with his S-550. He also claimed it would work on an S-760.? Search the completed listings, and maybe you could contact him for more info. Good Luck Ingo,? ? Would it be possible to make a converter cable that would plug into the S-330 and the other end of the cable would be USB to plug-in a regular USB mouse? Was there a good reason why Roland designed it this way, or was it to sell a propriety mouse?? ? Best regards,? ? David? -----Original Message----- From: David A. Roth To: sgroup sgroup Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2009 11:05 am Subject: Re: [sgroup] Mouse port ?? Ingo,? ? Would it be possible to make a converter cable that would plug into the S-330 and the other end of the cable would be USB to plug-in a regular USB mouse? Was there a good reason why Roland designed it this way, or was it to sell a propriety mouse?? ? Best regards,? ? David? ? On Jul 23, 2009, at 8:09 AM, Ingo Debus wrote:? ? >? > Am 23.07.2009 um 00:47 schrieb Colin Shapiro:? >? >>> hello I have read that when an improper mouse has been plugged in >>> that it can cause the mouse port on the Roland SXXX to fail or no >>> longer work properly. Is there an easy way to fix this issue ?? >>? >> S adly that happened to me.? >> I plugged a "normal" mouse into my S550 and it fried whatever >> component deals with the mouse. I now have to use the front panel >> buttons.? >>? >> I don't know of a fix for this - if you hear of anything, please >> let me know....? >? > On the S-330, pin 5 of the ext control jack is connected to +5V via > a fuse resistor. Don't know for the S-550, but since it's the same > mouse, it's probably just the same here. You could check the voltage > on pin 5 (pin 9 is ground) with a voltmeter. If there's no voltage > present, most probably the fuse resistor is blown. The schematic > says it's value is 0.15 ohms.? >? > Ingo? > _______________________________________________? ? _______________________________________________? Sent by the sgroup mailing list? sgroup@sgroup.ca? For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup? See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.? From musos at icon.co.za Fri Jul 24 21:03:50 2009 From: musos at icon.co.za (Colin Shapiro) Date: Fri Jul 24 21:04:10 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Mouse port ?? In-Reply-To: <8CBDA08BC16BF63-9F8-1305@FWM-M44.sysops.aol.com> References: <997934.4867.qm@web36101.mail.mud.yahoo.com><8A59E05D-0C23-4B84-8614-09A6C44B6D76@t-online.de> <01E644EE-6657-4B44-BAA3-3DE43CD93462@roth-music.com> <8CBDA08BC16BF63-9F8-1305@FWM-M44.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: >There was a recent eBay auction where a guy was selling a USB to >Serial mouse converter with his S-550. He also claimed it would work >on an S-760. Except that plugging in a serial mouse was what fried my S550 mouse port in the first place. The S550 plug looks like a normal serial port but apparently the connections are different. Buyer beware..... From trilobyte at hoe.nu Sat Jul 25 01:52:39 2009 From: trilobyte at hoe.nu (t'byte) Date: Sat Jul 25 01:53:47 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Intro, DJ-70mkii Message-ID: <3348998ee4b5364652f7ee766236a6cc.squirrel@webmail.hoe.nu> Hello List, I just recently joined, and appreciate the presence of this list and the archives so much. I started into the Roland sampler world with a 2nd-hand S-750 two years ago. Later I picked up an S-760. Last week I found a DJ-70mkii. If anyone can help me get the operating system upgraded on the DJ-70mkii, I would be very grateful. I saw on the net that the DJ-70 could boot from an updated operating system if you had the proper boot floppy in the drive on power-up. I can't find any such floppy anywhere. Haven't called Roland US to see if they have the EPROMs in stock still, would that be worth a shot? I currently have v1.00 of the OS, and it seems like it can read Zip and Jaz drives fine, but I'm kinda scared of getting too comfortable and then losing some work. Thanks Tim From trilobyte at hoe.nu Sat Jul 25 01:48:36 2009 From: trilobyte at hoe.nu (t'byte) Date: Sat Jul 25 01:55:50 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Mouse port ?? In-Reply-To: References: <997934.4867.qm@web36101.mail.mud.yahoo.com><8A59E05D-0C23-4B84-8614-09A6C44B6D76@t-online.de> <01E644EE-6657-4B44-BAA3-3DE43CD93462@roth-music.com> <8CBDA08BC16BF63-9F8-1305@FWM-M44.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: >>There was a recent eBay auction where a guy was selling a USB to >>Serial mouse converter with his S-550. He also claimed it would work >>on an S-760. > > Except that plugging in a serial mouse was what fried my S550 mouse > port in the first place. The S550 plug looks like a normal serial > port but apparently the connections are different. Also the same port style as Atari ST, Amiga, Commodore 64, Atari 400/800, etc. However, note that many of these platforms *also* do not have compatible interchangeability with their mouse ports. The Roland samplers used MSX-style mice, and I'm going to bet that the internals or "brains" of these samplers contain a lot of the same logic as the old MSX-based home computers of the mid-to-late 80s. Just another standard, using its own standard :) Sorry to hear that another mouse port bit the dust. - t From synpro at networld.at Sun Jul 26 06:54:58 2009 From: synpro at networld.at (Peter Ullrich) Date: Sun Jul 26 06:55:11 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Mouse port ?? In-Reply-To: <8CBDA08BC16BF63-9F8-1305@FWM-M44.sysops.aol.com> References: <997934.4867.qm@web36101.mail.mud.yahoo.com><8A59E05D-0C23-4B84-8614-09A6C44B6D76@t-online.de> <01E644EE-6657-4B44-BAA3-3DE43CD93462@roth-music.com> <8CBDA08BC16BF63-9F8-1305@FWM-M44.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1248605698.4a6c36020c33c@webmail.networld.at> Hi! > There was a recent eBay auction where a guy was selling a? USB to Serial > mouse converter with his S-550. He also claimed it would work on an S-760.? An USB to serial converter should work with the S550/760? Not is there is another serial to MSX mouse converter as the Roland S550/760 don't work with a serial mouse. Believe me - I know. I designed mouse converters for the S550... (see my webpage if interested). The cheapest and quite up to date solution that works with mice that can be bought today is a PS2-mouse to MSX converter. One of the designs has been done by a Japanese person, but his webpage is not longer online or not reachable that good. But you can load his design also from my mouse converter page. I already built his interface on a prototype boards and it works well! You can go directly to my mouse converter page http://home.pages.at/pullrich/mousecon.htm or you can start from my mainpage at: http://come.to/synpro or http://come.to/ullrich Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician Private Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich .oooO ( ) Oooo. \ ( ( ) -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ ---------------------------------- Ein Service von http://www.news.at From johnplaiduk at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jul 31 14:35:24 2009 From: johnplaiduk at yahoo.co.uk (JH) Date: Fri Jul 31 14:35:48 2009 Subject: [sgroup] S760 RGB to scart cable? Sync lines to make own lead? In-Reply-To: <1247000399.4a53b74f88f92@webmail.networld.at> References: <09A732FF-9906-40E7-91BB-7065471DBBE7@yahoo.co.uk> <1247000399.4a53b74f88f92@webmail.networld.at> Message-ID: My tech was able to wire up a cable and i tested it out on my scart input TV. Where there should be a blue background, as on the main S760 monitor edit screen, the background is red in colour... Any ideas? On 7 Jul 2009, at 21:59, Peter Ullrich wrote: > > Hi! > > Have a look at this circuit: > http://hem.passagen.se/tomasf/elektronik/cga2scart.zip > > This circuit should be your solution - but I have not tested it with > my S-760 > samplers yet. Please let us know if you have success with it! > > Ciao > Peter > > \|/ > (o o) > --oOOO--(_)-- > OOOo------------------------------------------------------ > Ing. Peter Ullrich > Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician > Private Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich > .oooO > ( ) Oooo. > \ ( ( ) > ----- > \_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- > (_/ > > > > > Zitat von JH : > >> I've posted this up on the yahoo group, but i'll run it again >> here..... >> I've contacted a tech with regards to wiring up a lead for my S760 to >> come out >> from to RGB socket and then to go to a SCART socket..... >> This is all really above my head, but my tech is asking questions >> with >> regards >> to SYNC lines..... as i said it means nothing to me, but i did show >> them the >> S760 monitor page in my manual, and also the very useful S760 >> webpage- >> monitor >> link.... http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/clouzeau/s760/monitor.htm >> My tech is asking: >> "The main question would be, what to do about the VSYNC and HSYNC >> lines >> with regards to SCART. It expects a combined composite sync. >> >> Really it's just the working pinouts that we need. >> >> I've had a look on that S760 monitor page, but there's no definite >> information >> regarding SCART. TTL is also 5v digital. SCART is 1v p2p." >> >> This means nothing to me.... but can someone please help out if they >> know the >> info needed? >> >> Its just to wire an RGB lead to SCART socket for the S760.. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sent by the sgroup mailing list >> sgroup@sgroup.ca >> For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup >> See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > ---------------------------------- > Ein Service von http://www.news.at