From oleniacz at hotmail.com Sun Mar 1 20:58:51 2009 From: oleniacz at hotmail.com (David Oleniacz) Date: Sun Mar 1 20:59:07 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Free Roland sampler stuff Message-ID: Hey I sold my samplers a long time ago, but have some stuff laying around. I'd hate to just throw it out. It's free to anyone that's willing pay shipping to have it sent to you. But you must take all of it. I believe everything was working the last time it was used, but that was years ago. You can estimate shipping a box about 20lbs from Pittsburgh PA to your location. Here's what you'll get. S-550 manual S-330 manual SCSI CD-ROM drive Apple 300e Plus APS External SCSI hard drive of unknown size SCSI terminator Roland Director -S Sequencer Package SYS-503 for the S-50 Misc Sample CDs David _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?.. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme From jsegovia at mindspring.com Sun Mar 1 21:27:27 2009 From: jsegovia at mindspring.com (Jesse Segovia) Date: Sun Mar 1 21:27:48 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Free Roland sampler stuff In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00e501c99ade$6e763e70$4b62bb50$@com> I'm very interested - what would shipping cost? And by the way, I emailed you off-list a while ago and I got a delivery failure. Is your email address OK? Jesse > -----Original Message----- > From: sgroup-bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com@sgroup.ca [mailto:sgroup- > bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com@sgroup.ca] On Behalf Of David Oleniacz > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:59 PM > To: sgroup@sgroup.ca > Subject: [sgroup] Free Roland sampler stuff > > > Hey > > > > I sold my samplers a long time ago, but have some stuff laying around. > > I'd hate to just throw it out. > > It's free to anyone that's willing pay shipping to have it sent to you. > > But you must take all of it. > > I believe everything was working the last time it was used, > > but that was years ago. > > > > You can estimate shipping a box about 20lbs from Pittsburgh PA to your > location. > > > > Here's what you'll get. > > > > S-550 manual > > S-330 manual > > SCSI CD-ROM drive Apple 300e Plus > > APS External SCSI hard drive of unknown size > > SCSI terminator > > Roland Director -S Sequencer Package SYS-503 for the S-50 > > Misc Sample CDs > > > > David > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for > HotmailR... > http://www.windowslive- > hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032 > 009#colortheme_______________________________________________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From vlongo at comcast.net Sun Mar 1 21:53:11 2009 From: vlongo at comcast.net (Vincent Longo) Date: Sun Mar 1 21:48:58 2009 Subject: [sgroup] S-760 External Monitor Help Needed! Message-ID: <49AB4A17.8010308@comcast.net> Hi! I have an S-760 with a bad LCD display. Can someone tell me the exact series of steps to put the unit back into the mode that allows the use of an external monitor? I'll be doing it blindly, so I'll need something that reads like: "press 'down' 3 times, then press 'inc' ". Thanks in advance! From k2500x at hotmail.com Thu Mar 19 10:19:21 2009 From: k2500x at hotmail.com (k2500x _) Date: Thu Mar 19 10:24:27 2009 Subject: [sgroup] SCSI switch box? Message-ID: Using multiple S-760s and was wondering if anyone has experience with using manual SCSI switch boxes? Would like to share one scsi HD with multiple S-760s. http://www.cablesonline.net/abcnscsiswit1.html Here is one such switch box. This claims to be an actual SCSI switch with CN50 cables supported. http://www.cablesonline.net/dbabswitbox1.html Here is a DB25 box that is usually used for parallel printers, but it uses the same DB25 connector that is on the back of the S760 so I'm not sure why it wouldn't work. Also, is there an actual difference between SCSI and parallel DB25 cables? I understand that you should not interface one with the other, but is the actual DB25 cable itself different? The reason I ask is because parallel cables are so much cheaper. Thanks in advance! _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 From k2500x at hotmail.com Thu Mar 19 16:28:15 2009 From: k2500x at hotmail.com (k2500x _) Date: Thu Mar 19 16:28:21 2009 Subject: [sgroup] SCSI switch box? In-Reply-To: <49C28C29.7090202@socal.rr.com> References: <49C28C29.7090202@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Hi Gary thanks for the reply! I went to the electronic city web site and did not see any scsi switches. Any idea what model number I'm looking for and what price I should expect to pay? I also posted links to two switches below. Do you think these will work just as good? Only one of my S760 has the video upgrade so I don't think a video switch will help me, right? Thanks again, Ken > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:17:13 -0700 > From: chaseman@socal.rr.com > To: k2500x@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [sgroup] SCSI switch box? > > We've been using 8 760s on 1 SCSI buss for years successfully... You'll > need 2 boxes, 1 for SCSi and 1 for video, both with an 8 selector pot.. > You can order them from Electronic City in Burbank if you're in LA or > check your local Radio Shack. > Gary > > k2500x _ wrote: > > Using multiple S-760s and was wondering if anyone has experience with using manual SCSI switch boxes? > > > > Would like to share one scsi HD with multiple S-760s. > > > > > > > > http://www.cablesonline.net/abcnscsiswit1.html > > > > > > > > Here is one such switch box. This claims to be an actual SCSI switch with CN50 cables supported. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cablesonline.net/dbabswitbox1.html > > > > > > > > Here is a DB25 box that is usually used for parallel printers, but it uses the same DB25 connector that is on the back of the S760 so I'm not sure why it wouldn't work. > > > > > > > > Also, is there an actual difference between SCSI and parallel DB25 cables? I understand that you should not interface one with the other, but is the actual DB25 cable itself different? The reason I ask is because parallel cables are so much cheaper. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > >> > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 From bruce at skeletonhome.com Thu Mar 19 16:48:38 2009 From: bruce at skeletonhome.com (Bruce Tovsky) Date: Thu Mar 19 16:54:34 2009 Subject: [sgroup] SCSI switch box? In-Reply-To: References: <49C28C29.7090202@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: ken be aware that most of these switches do NOT support "hot switching". you will need to power down both s760's (and possibly the drives), then do the switch, then reboot. caveat: it's been years since i fiddled with SCSI so newer devices may have become available that do "hot switch", but double-check to be sure. if you have to power down, etc. it kind of defeats the purpose of the switch. i've also heard that you can sometimes connect two devices to the same scsi drive - go from one s760 to the drive, loop out of that drive to the second s760. however, i don't know if the 760's allow this or whether there would be other issues with this. research needed. good luck b On Mar 19, 2009, at 4:28 PM, k2500x _ wrote: > > Hi Gary thanks for the reply! I went to the electronic city web > site and did not see any scsi switches. Any idea what model number > I'm looking for and what price I should expect to pay? I also > posted links to two switches below. Do you think these will work > just as good? > > > > Only one of my S760 has the video upgrade so I don't think a video > switch will help me, right? > > > > Thanks again, > > Ken > > > >> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:17:13 -0700 >> From: chaseman@socal.rr.com >> To: k2500x@hotmail.com >> Subject: Re: [sgroup] SCSI switch box? >> >> We've been using 8 760s on 1 SCSI buss for years successfully... >> You'll >> need 2 boxes, 1 for SCSi and 1 for video, both with an 8 selector >> pot... >> You can order them from Electronic City in Burbank if you're in LA or >> check your local Radio Shack. >> Gary >> >> k2500x _ wrote: >>> Using multiple S-760s and was wondering if anyone has experience >>> with using manual SCSI switch boxes? >>> >>> Would like to share one scsi HD with multiple S-760s. >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.cablesonline.net/abcnscsiswit1.html >>> >>> >>> >>> Here is one such switch box. This claims to be an actual SCSI >>> switch with CN50 cables supported. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.cablesonline.net/dbabswitbox1.html >>> >>> >>> >>> Here is a DB25 box that is usually used for parallel printers, >>> but it uses the same DB25 connector that is on the back of the >>> S760 so I'm not sure why it wouldn't work. >>> >>> >>> >>> Also, is there an actual difference between SCSI and parallel >>> DB25 cables? I understand that you should not interface one with >>> the other, but is the actual DB25 cable itself different? The >>> reason I ask is because parallel cables are so much cheaper. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance! >>> >>>> For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/ >>>> sgroup >>> See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >>> >>> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite > groups to meet. > http://windowslive.com/online/groups? > ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009_______________________________________ > ________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/ > sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." Albert Einstein From bruce at skeletonhome.com Thu Mar 19 17:17:37 2009 From: bruce at skeletonhome.com (Bruce Tovsky) Date: Thu Mar 19 17:17:47 2009 Subject: [sgroup] SCSI switch box? In-Reply-To: <49C2B2FD.2090902@socal.rr.com> References: <49C28C29.7090202@socal.rr.com> <49C2B2FD.2090902@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: well, i did add a caveat.... thanks for the clarification. b On Mar 19, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Gary Chase wrote: > This is not true... they switch fine when the cabling has integrity > and your ID are set correctly. So many people have been doing this > for year and years.... beginning with Han Zimmer when he sampled > the London Phil specifically to be loaded into the Roland > samplers... he had racks of 32 760's going. > > Bruce Tovsky wrote: >> ken >> be aware that most of these switches do NOT support "hot >> switching". you will need to power down both s760's (and possibly >> the drives), then do the switch, then reboot. caveat: it's been >> years since i fiddled with SCSI so newer devices may have become >> available that do "hot switch", but double-check to be sure. if >> you have to power down, etc. it kind of defeats the purpose of the >> switch. i've also heard that you can sometimes connect two devices >> to the same scsi drive - go from one s760 to the drive, loop out >> of that drive to the second s760. however, i don't know if the >> 760's allow this or whether there would be other issues with this. >> research needed. >> good luck >> b >> >> On Mar 19, 2009, at 4:28 PM, k2500x _ wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Gary thanks for the reply! I went to the electronic city web >>> site and did not see any scsi switches. Any idea what model >>> number I'm looking for and what price I should expect to pay? I >>> also posted links to two switches below. Do you think these will >>> work just as good? >>> >>> >>> >>> Only one of my S760 has the video upgrade so I don't think a >>> video switch will help me, right? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks again, >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> >>> >>>> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:17:13 -0700 >>>> From: chaseman@socal.rr.com >>>> To: k2500x@hotmail.com >>>> Subject: Re: [sgroup] SCSI switch box? >>>> >>>> We've been using 8 760s on 1 SCSI buss for years successfully... >>>> You'll need 2 boxes, 1 for SCSi and 1 for video, both with an 8 >>>> selector pot... >>>> You can order them from Electronic City in Burbank if you're in >>>> LA or check your local Radio Shack. >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> k2500x _ wrote: >>>>> Using multiple S-760s and was wondering if anyone has >>>>> experience with using manual SCSI switch boxes? >>>>> >>>>> Would like to share one scsi HD with multiple S-760s. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.cablesonline.net/abcnscsiswit1.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here is one such switch box. This claims to be an actual SCSI >>>>> switch with CN50 cables supported. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.cablesonline.net/dbabswitbox1.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here is a DB25 box that is usually used for parallel printers, >>>>> but it uses the same DB25 connector that is on the back of the >>>>> S760 so I'm not sure why it wouldn't work. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Also, is there an actual difference between SCSI and parallel >>>>> DB25 cables? I understand that you should not interface one >>>>> with the other, but is the actual DB25 cable itself different? >>>>> The reason I ask is because parallel cables are so much cheaper. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance! >>>>> >>>>>> For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/ >>>>>> listinfo/sgroup >>>>> See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite >>> groups to meet. >>> http://windowslive.com/online/groups? >>> ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009_____________________________________ >>> __________ >>> Sent by the sgroup mailing list >>> sgroup@sgroup.ca >>> For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/ >>> sgroup >>> See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >> >> bruce tovsky >> >> www.skeletonhome.com >> >> >> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >> >> Albert Einstein >> >> > From db at skylab2000.com Thu Mar 19 17:58:17 2009 From: db at skylab2000.com (dennis barton) Date: Thu Mar 19 18:04:10 2009 Subject: [sgroup] SCSI switch box? In-Reply-To: References: <49C28C29.7090202@socal.rr.com> <49C2B2FD.2090902@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <630336.99708.bm@omp422.mail.mud.yahoo.com> if you want to share data, then putting a zip drive on each and popping out the disk works well At 3/19/2009 02:17 PM, Bruce Tovsky wrote: >well, i did add a caveat.... thanks for the clarification. >b > >On Mar 19, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Gary Chase wrote: > >>This is not true... they switch fine when the cabling has integrity >>and your ID are set correctly. So many people have been doing this >>for year and years.... beginning with Han Zimmer when he sampled >>the London Phil specifically to be loaded into the Roland >>samplers... he had racks of 32 760's going. >> >>Bruce Tovsky wrote: >>>ken >>>be aware that most of these switches do NOT support "hot >>>switching". you will need to power down both s760's (and possibly >>>the drives), then do the switch, then reboot. caveat: it's been >>>years since i fiddled with SCSI so newer devices may have become >>>available that do "hot switch", but double-check to be sure. if >>>you have to power down, etc. it kind of defeats the purpose of the >>>switch. i've also heard that you can sometimes connect two devices >>>to the same scsi drive - go from one s760 to the drive, loop out >>>of that drive to the second s760. however, i don't know if the >>>760's allow this or whether there would be other issues with this. >>>research needed. >>>good luck >>>b >>> >>>On Mar 19, 2009, at 4:28 PM, k2500x _ wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>Hi Gary thanks for the reply! I went to the electronic city web >>>>site and did not see any scsi switches. Any idea what model >>>>number I'm looking for and what price I should expect to pay? I >>>>also posted links to two switches below. Do you think these will >>>>work just as good? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Only one of my S760 has the video upgrade so I don't think a >>>>video switch will help me, right? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Thanks again, >>>> >>>>Ken >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:17:13 -0700 >>>>>From: chaseman@socal.rr.com >>>>>To: k2500x@hotmail.com >>>>>Subject: Re: [sgroup] SCSI switch box? >>>>> >>>>>We've been using 8 760s on 1 SCSI buss for years successfully... >>>>>You'll need 2 boxes, 1 for SCSi and 1 for video, both with an 8 >>>>>selector pot... >>>>>You can order them from Electronic City in Burbank if you're in >>>>>LA or check your local Radio Shack. >>>>>Gary >>>>> >>>>>k2500x _ wrote: >>>>>>Using multiple S-760s and was wondering if anyone has >>>>>>experience with using manual SCSI switch boxes? >>>>>> >>>>>>Would like to share one scsi HD with multiple S-760s. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>http://www.cablesonline.net/abcnscsiswit1.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Here is one such switch box. This claims to be an actual SCSI >>>>>>switch with CN50 cables supported. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>http://www.cablesonline.net/dbabswitbox1.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Here is a DB25 box that is usually used for parallel printers, >>>>>>but it uses the same DB25 connector that is on the back of the >>>>>>S760 so I'm not sure why it wouldn't work. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Also, is there an actual difference between SCSI and parallel >>>>>>DB25 cables? I understand that you should not interface one >>>>>>with the other, but is the actual DB25 cable itself different? >>>>>>The reason I ask is because parallel cables are so much cheaper. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Thanks in advance! >>>>>> >>>>>>>For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/ listinfo/sgroup >>>>>>See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>>Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite >>>>groups to meet. >>>>http://windowslive.com/online/groups? >>>>ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009_____________________________________ __________ >>>>Sent by the sgroup mailing list >>>>sgroup@sgroup.ca >>>>For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/ sgroup >>>>See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >>> >>>bruce tovsky >>> >>>www.skeletonhome.com >>> >>> >>>"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>> >>>Albert Einstein >>> > >_______________________________________________ >Sent by the sgroup mailing list >sgroup@sgroup.ca >For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup >See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. Dennis Barton Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles From k2500x at hotmail.com Tue Mar 24 23:42:16 2009 From: k2500x at hotmail.com (k2500x _) Date: Tue Mar 24 23:42:19 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? Message-ID: I just got an S-760 and it came with a nice sample collection as part of the sale, but it's getting harder and harder to find the soundware for these samplers anymore. Anyone interested in trading sounds? Please email me.... Thanks, Ken _________________________________________________________________ Internet Explorer 8 ? Now Available. Faster, safer, easier. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/ From chaseman at socal.rr.com Wed Mar 25 03:11:26 2009 From: chaseman at socal.rr.com (chaseman@socal.rr.com) Date: Wed Mar 25 03:11:36 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090325071126.8ENKI.390974.root@hrndva-web01-z02> That is highly illegal my friend... and if you're going to do it, you need to be more discreet than this. Respecfully, Gary ---- k2500x _ wrote: > > I just got an S-760 and it came with a nice sample collection as part of the sale, but it's getting harder and harder to find the soundware for these samplers anymore. Anyone interested in trading sounds? Please email me...... > > > > Thanks, > > Ken > > _________________________________________________________________ > Internet Explorer 8 ? Now Available. Faster, safer, easier. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/_______________________________________________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From k2500x at hotmail.com Wed Mar 25 06:45:21 2009 From: k2500x at hotmail.com (k2500x _) Date: Wed Mar 25 06:45:27 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? In-Reply-To: <20090325071126.8ENKI.390974.root@hrndva-web01-z02> References: <20090325071126.8ENKI.390974.root@hrndva-web01-z02> Message-ID: Sorry, it was not my intention to break any laws. It is true that some of the soundware is impossible to find these days though. I have seen many other synths where their patches become 'public domain' after 15 years on the market. When you just can't find those sounds anymore and the creator is not selling them anymore. Anyway, I hope I have not offended anyone on this group. > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:11:26 +0000 > From: chaseman@socal.rr.com > To: k2500x@hotmail.com; sgroup@sgroup.ca > Subject: Re: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? > > That is highly illegal my friend... and if you're going to do it, you need to be more discreet than this. > Respecfully, > Gary > > ---- k2500x _ wrote: > > > > I just got an S-760 and it came with a nice sample collection as part of the sale, but it's getting harder and harder to find the soundware for these samplers anymore. Anyone interested in trading sounds? Please email me..... > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ken > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Internet Explorer 8 ? Now Available. Faster, safer, easier. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/_______________________________________________ > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > > sgroup@sgroup.ca > > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > _________________________________________________________________ Get quick access to your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN55C0701A From jsegovia at mindspring.com Wed Mar 25 12:59:00 2009 From: jsegovia at mindspring.com (Jesse Segovia) Date: Wed Mar 25 12:59:33 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? In-Reply-To: References: <20090325071126.8ENKI.390974.root@hrndva-web01-z02> Message-ID: <042001c9ad6a$fec4aa90$fc4dffb0$@com> That brings up a good question - if I buy a sample CD and fifteen years later I try to contact the copyright owner and they are out of business, and I make a good faith effort to find out who if anyone owns these rights but I can't find anything, can I not distribute these samples for free to other users? You may even have the right to sell them to anyone who wants to buy them from you, but I assume that's not what you are trying to do. Jesse > -----Original Message----- > From: sgroup-bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com@sgroup.ca [mailto:sgroup- > bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com@sgroup.ca] On Behalf Of k2500x _ > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:45 AM > To: chaseman@socal.rr.com; sgroup sgroup > Subject: RE: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? > > > Sorry, it was not my intention to break any laws. > > It is true that some of the soundware is impossible to find these days > though. > > I have seen many other synths where their patches become 'public > domain' after 15 years on the market. > > When you just can't find those sounds anymore and the creator is not > selling them anymore. > > Anyway, I hope I have not offended anyone on this group. > > > > > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:11:26 +0000 > > From: chaseman@socal.rr.com > > To: k2500x@hotmail.com; sgroup@sgroup.ca > > Subject: Re: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? > > > > That is highly illegal my friend... and if you're going to do it, you > need to be more discreet than this. > > Respecfully, > > Gary > > > > ---- k2500x _ wrote: > > > > > > I just got an S-760 and it came with a nice sample collection as > part of the sale, but it's getting harder and harder to find the > soundware for these samplers anymore. Anyone interested in trading > sounds? Please email me..... > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Internet Explorer 8 - Now Available. Faster, safer, easier. > > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/_______________________ > ________________________ > > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > > > sgroup@sgroup.ca > > > For subscribe/unsubscribe: > http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > > > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get quick access to your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. > http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en- > us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN55C0701A_______________________________________ > ________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From garth at chickensys.com Wed Mar 25 14:18:19 2009 From: garth at chickensys.com (Garth Hjelte) Date: Wed Mar 25 14:29:40 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? In-Reply-To: References: <20090325071126.8ENKI.390974.root@hrndva-web01-z02> Message-ID: <20090325182935.A5E701B5CAD@s5.syonex.com> At 05:45 AM 3/25/2009, you wrote: >Sorry, it was not my intention to break any laws. >It is true that some of the soundware is impossible to find these days though. >I have seen many other synths where their patches become 'public >domain' after 15 years on the market. >When you just can't find those sounds anymore and the creator is not >selling them anymore. I find Roland S-7x CD's very easily - EatWest and QUpArts have them still for sale on their sites. Roland I believe still sells their CD's. Sure, it's a little harder find the sounds, but the good news is that they are less expensive. Additionally (company plug here) you can use Translator www.chickensys.com to convert into Roland S-7x format from any other format, so you aren't necessarily tied into just Roland format. Garth Hjelte Sampler User From garth at chickensys.com Wed Mar 25 14:19:35 2009 From: garth at chickensys.com (Garth Hjelte) Date: Wed Mar 25 14:29:43 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? In-Reply-To: <042001c9ad6a$fec4aa90$fc4dffb0$@com> References: <20090325071126.8ENKI.390974.root@hrndva-web01-z02> <042001c9ad6a$fec4aa90$fc4dffb0$@com> Message-ID: <20090325182936.E060E1B5CB4@s5.syonex.com> At 11:59 AM 3/25/2009, you wrote: >That brings up a good question - if I buy a sample CD and fifteen years >later I try to contact the copyright owner and they are out of business, and >I make a good faith effort to find out who if anyone owns these rights but I >can't find anything, can I not distribute these samples for free to other >users? You may even have the right to sell them to anyone who wants to buy >them from you, but I assume that's not what you are trying to do. Nope. What is someones, stays someones. I think the legal provident of this is 70 years for public domain, but I don't really know. Garth Hjelte Sampler User From db at skylab2000.com Wed Mar 25 14:19:17 2009 From: db at skylab2000.com (dennis barton) Date: Wed Mar 25 14:31:48 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? In-Reply-To: <042001c9ad6a$fec4aa90$fc4dffb0$@com> References: <20090325071126.8ENKI.390974.root@hrndva-web01-z02> <042001c9ad6a$fec4aa90$fc4dffb0$@com> Message-ID: <274297.57440.bm@omp404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> At 3/25/2009 09:59 AM, Jesse Segovia wrote: >That brings up a good question - if I buy a sample CD and fifteen years >later I try to contact the copyright owner and they are out of business, and >I make a good faith effort to find out who if anyone owns these rights but I >can't find anything, can I not distribute these samples for free to other >users? You may even have the right to sell them to anyone who wants to buy >them from you, but I assume that's not what you are trying to do. I personally think that if a company isn't around anymore, then there no real harm in making a couple of copies. No loss of sales = no real victim. While maybe not technically 100% legal, we need to apply common sense now and again, Dennis Barton Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles From jsegovia at mindspring.com Wed Mar 25 14:57:07 2009 From: jsegovia at mindspring.com (Jesse Segovia) Date: Wed Mar 25 14:57:18 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? In-Reply-To: <20090325182935.A5E701B5CAD@s5.syonex.com> References: <20090325071126.8ENKI.390974.root@hrndva-web01-z02> <20090325182935.A5E701B5CAD@s5.syonex.com> Message-ID: <046f01c9ad7b$7f337070$7d9a5150$@com> Did this ever work? I remember they announced some kind of translation support for S-7XX but the last I knew it still wasn't available. So Chickensys will allow you to create a Roland format CD from an Akai format or better, from a CD of wav. Samples? Jesse > -----Original Message----- > From: sgroup-bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com@sgroup.ca [mailto:sgroup- > bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com@sgroup.ca] On Behalf Of Garth Hjelte > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:18 PM > To: k2500x _ > Cc: sgroup@sgroup.ca > Subject: RE: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? > > At 05:45 AM 3/25/2009, you wrote: > > >Sorry, it was not my intention to break any laws. > >It is true that some of the soundware is impossible to find these days > though. > >I have seen many other synths where their patches become 'public > >domain' after 15 years on the market. > >When you just can't find those sounds anymore and the creator is not > >selling them anymore. > > I find Roland S-7x CD's very easily - EatWest and QUpArts have them > still for sale on their sites. Roland I believe still sells their CD's. > > Sure, it's a little harder find the sounds, but the good news is that > they are less expensive. Additionally (company plug here) you can use > Translator www.chickensys.com to convert into Roland S-7x format from > any other format, so you aren't necessarily tied into just Roland > format. > > Garth Hjelte > Sampler User > > _______________________________________________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From k2500x at hotmail.com Wed Mar 25 15:03:09 2009 From: k2500x at hotmail.com (k2500x _) Date: Wed Mar 25 15:03:15 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? In-Reply-To: References: <20090325071126.8ENKI.390974.root@hrndva-web01-z02> Message-ID: How does translator output roland format? Does it write the ISO image and then you burn it to a CD? What's the latest version of traslator? I tried it once around 2001 or so and found it so buggy as if to be unusable. Can I just stick in an AKAI disk and it will spit out in Roland format? The native translation of AKAI on the roland is very slow and painful. Plus the key velocity maps seem to be all wrong. Ken > I find Roland S-7x CD's very easily - EatWest and QUpArts have them > still for sale on their sites. Roland I believe still sells their CD's. > > Sure, it's a little harder find the sounds, but the good news is that > they are less expensive. Additionally (company plug here) you can use > Translator www.chickensys.com to convert into Roland S-7x format from > any other format, so you aren't necessarily tied into just Roland format. > > Garth Hjelte > Sampler User > Get quick access to your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. Download FREE now! _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?.. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme From bruce at skeletonhome.com Wed Mar 25 15:25:06 2009 From: bruce at skeletonhome.com (Bruce Tovsky) Date: Wed Mar 25 15:25:12 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? In-Reply-To: References: <20090325071126.8ENKI.390974.root@hrndva-web01-z02> Message-ID: <0CAAB4C4-92A1-4B71-85EF-32EED971C588@skeletonhome.com> fwiw, i think that my old pal stefano daino's dsp-quattro program can handle stuff back even to the s50/550. i think you need to format your disk in a sampler, but it can then put samples there. i'm not sure what the development status of dsp is these days, i haven't had much to do with hardware for a decade now. cheers bruce On Mar 25, 2009, at 3:03 PM, k2500x _ wrote: > > How does translator output roland format? Does it write the ISO > image and then you burn it to a CD? What's the latest version of > traslator? I tried it once around 2001 or so and found it so buggy > as if to be unusable. Can I just stick in an AKAI disk and it will > spit out in Roland format? The native translation of AKAI on the > roland is very slow and painful. Plus the key velocity maps seem to > be all wrong. > > Ken > > >> I find Roland S-7x CD's very easily - EatWest and QUpArts have them >> still for sale on their sites. Roland I believe still sells their >> CD's. >> >> Sure, it's a little harder find the sounds, but the good news is that >> they are less expensive. Additionally (company plug here) you can use >> Translator www.chickensys.com to convert into Roland S-7x format from >> any other format, so you aren't necessarily tied into just Roland >> format. >> >> Garth Hjelte >> Sampler User >> > > > > Get quick access to your favorite MSN content with Internet > Explorer 8. Download FREE now! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for > Hotmail?... > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx? > ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme________________________ > _______________________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/ > sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From denny at dennydaughters.com Wed Mar 25 20:00:20 2009 From: denny at dennydaughters.com (Denny Daughters) Date: Wed Mar 25 20:07:08 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? References: <20090325071126.8ENKI.390974.root@hrndva-web01-z02> <042001c9ad6a$fec4aa90$fc4dffb0$@com> Message-ID: Why not trade sounds. The only thing you have to worry about is people complaining. I doubt that's going to happen. Just go ahead and trade away. Denny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Segovia" To: "'k2500x _'" ; ; "'sgroup sgroup'" Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:59 AM Subject: RE: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? > That brings up a good question - if I buy a sample CD and fifteen years > later I try to contact the copyright owner and they are out of business, > and > I make a good faith effort to find out who if anyone owns these rights but > I > can't find anything, can I not distribute these samples for free to other > users? You may even have the right to sell them to anyone who wants to > buy > them from you, but I assume that's not what you are trying to do. > > Jesse > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sgroup-bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com@sgroup.ca [mailto:sgroup- >> bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com@sgroup.ca] On Behalf Of k2500x _ >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:45 AM >> To: chaseman@socal.rr.com; sgroup sgroup >> Subject: RE: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? >> >> >> Sorry, it was not my intention to break any laws. >> >> It is true that some of the soundware is impossible to find these days >> though. >> >> I have seen many other synths where their patches become 'public >> domain' after 15 years on the market. >> >> When you just can't find those sounds anymore and the creator is not >> selling them anymore. >> >> Anyway, I hope I have not offended anyone on this group. >> >> >> >> > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:11:26 +0000 >> > From: chaseman@socal.rr.com >> > To: k2500x@hotmail.com; sgroup@sgroup.ca >> > Subject: Re: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? >> > >> > That is highly illegal my friend... and if you're going to do it, you >> need to be more discreet than this. >> > Respecfully, >> > Gary >> > >> > ---- k2500x _ wrote: >> > > >> > > I just got an S-760 and it came with a nice sample collection as >> part of the sale, but it's getting harder and harder to find the >> soundware for these samplers anymore. Anyone interested in trading >> sounds? Please email me..... >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > >> > > Ken >> > > >> > > _________________________________________________________________ >> > > Internet Explorer 8 - Now Available. Faster, safer, easier. >> > > >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/_______________________ >> ________________________ >> > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list >> > > sgroup@sgroup.ca >> > > For subscribe/unsubscribe: >> http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup >> > > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >> > >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Get quick access to your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. >> http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en- >> us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN55C0701A_______________________________________ >> ________ >> Sent by the sgroup mailing list >> sgroup@sgroup.ca >> For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup >> See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From denny at dennydaughters.com Wed Mar 25 22:53:59 2009 From: denny at dennydaughters.com (Denny Daughters) Date: Wed Mar 25 23:00:46 2009 Subject: [sgroup] curious Message-ID: <4B558CB3D7AD488A821F70A29BA78649@dennye6ij16tob> What's the law say about trading or copying sounds here in the states? I think it's wrong to pay for the actual sounds, but if you supply the materials so somebody can copy them for you is that wrong? Unless you put advertising on the internet, are the copyright holders going to press charges? I don't want to come across mean, I'm just curious about these questions. Isn't it easier just to throw some sounds on a floppy or 5 and send them through the mail? From david at roth-music.com Thu Mar 26 00:30:55 2009 From: david at roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Date: Thu Mar 26 00:31:01 2009 Subject: [sgroup] curious In-Reply-To: <4B558CB3D7AD488A821F70A29BA78649@dennye6ij16tob> References: <4B558CB3D7AD488A821F70A29BA78649@dennye6ij16tob> Message-ID: <642abf2e0903252130i1be35976r92d14c2c506904f2@mail.gmail.com> Hi Folks. If you really want to know about Copyright Law in the US, the best thing to do is visit their web site. They have some very easy to understand documents about copyright: http://www.copyright.gov/ I know it is more expedient to simply ignore them with the intention of not getting caught, but I feel strongly its best to do the right thing. Schools of Music in general from my experience have done less than a stellar job of educating musicians on Copyrights and even how to protect your own works. For those that are not familiar with this or could use a review, I encourage all of you to review the Copyright laws. As for practical considerations, you don't want someone filing a lawsuit against you for copyright infringement, cause even if they loose their case against you, you loose either way because of the attorney fees you would need to represent yourself. Another practical consideration, is that when you contact the copyright holder you may get a chance to have access to other or similar materials you are seeking permission for. In the case of the samples, they may have the original samples that are higher quality and before any processing was done to them. Hope this was helpful! David A. Roth On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Denny Daughters wrote: > What's the law say about trading or copying sounds here in the states? I > think it's wrong to pay for the actual sounds, but if you supply the > materials so somebody can copy them for you is that wrong? Unless you put > advertising on the internet, are the copyright holders going to press > charges? I don't want to come across mean, I'm just curious about these > questions. Isn't it easier just to throw some sounds on a floppy or 5 and > send them through the mail? > _______________________________________________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > From garth at chickensys.com Wed Mar 25 15:30:36 2009 From: garth at chickensys.com (Garth Hjelte) Date: Thu Mar 26 03:56:34 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? In-Reply-To: References: <20090325071126.8ENKI.390974.root@hrndva-web01-z02> Message-ID: <20090326075629.DB9B71B5C4D@s5.syonex.com> At 02:02 PM 3/25/2009, you wrote: >How does translator output roland format? Does it write the ISO >image and then you burn it to a CD? That's one way. Another way is to write directly to a SCSI drive (like a Zip), and wrwiting to floppy support is coming. >What's the latest version of traslator? 2.9.122 >I tried it once around 2001 or so and found it so buggy as if to be unusable. It could have been; that was a long time ago. >Can I just stick in an AKAI disk and it will spit out in Roland >format? The native translation of AKAI on the roland is very slow >and painful. Plus the key velocity maps seem to be all wrong. Generally you can, but it's probably best to do one Volume or one Partition at a time. I'd like to see it do a full disk, no reason why it can't. Garth Hjelte Sampler User From garth at chickensys.com Wed Mar 25 15:32:35 2009 From: garth at chickensys.com (Garth Hjelte) Date: Thu Mar 26 03:56:38 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? In-Reply-To: <046f01c9ad7b$7f337070$7d9a5150$@com> References: <20090325071126.8ENKI.390974.root@hrndva-web01-z02> <20090325182935.A5E701B5CAD@s5.syonex.com> <046f01c9ad7b$7f337070$7d9a5150$@com> Message-ID: <20090326075630.411391B5C50@s5.syonex.com> At 01:57 PM 3/25/2009, you wrote: >Did this ever work? I remember they announced some kind of translation >support for S-7XX but the last I knew it still wasn't available. So >Chickensys will allow you to create a Roland format CD from an Akai format Yes, it's been in there for awhile. >or better, from a CD of wav. Samples? Our upcoming Constructor will really work well for this. It's a generic Instrument Builder where you can build your own Instrument, then export it to Roland format. You can also import in a Roland Patch or Performance, edit it, and write it back. Essentially a graphic editor for the S-7x. Garth Hjelte Sampler User From garth at chickensys.com Wed Mar 25 22:33:49 2009 From: garth at chickensys.com (Garth Hjelte) Date: Thu Mar 26 03:56:43 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds? In-Reply-To: References: <20090325071126.8ENKI.390974.root@hrndva-web01-z02> <042001c9ad6a$fec4aa90$fc4dffb0$@com> Message-ID: <20090326075632.864121B5CD2@s5.syonex.com> At 07:00 PM 3/25/2009, you wrote: >Why not trade sounds. The only thing you have to worry about is people >complaining. I doubt that's going to happen. Just go ahead and trade away. There's a lot that can happen. There are crimes that are obvious, like murder, stealing, etc. There are ones that aren't, like piracy. Piracy wears down an industry. When it comes to sound development, it's even worse - the M.I. industry is small as it is. Musicians live off rice and beans (no kidding). Those sounds you are trading were developed by someone who counts on them to provide money that they live on, money to pay their mortgage, their health insurance. I know that sounds sappy, but it's true - I know. I know these people. So trade sounds that are yours, but don't trade copyrighted sounds - that's up to someone to purchase and pay the appropriate price. The problem with "it can't hurt anyone" is that everyone starts thinking that way and then you have a bigger problem. Better yet to "do the right thing". Go to www.imsta.org - as they say, BUY THE SOFTWARE YOU USE. Specifically, check this page out: www.imsta.org/imsta_myths.html Garth Hjelte Sampler User From musos at icon.co.za Thu Mar 26 08:01:36 2009 From: musos at icon.co.za (Colin Shapiro) Date: Thu Mar 26 08:59:00 2009 Subject: [sgroup] curious In-Reply-To: <4B558CB3D7AD488A821F70A29BA78649@dennye6ij16tob> References: <4B558CB3D7AD488A821F70A29BA78649@dennye6ij16tob> Message-ID: Denny Daughters wrote: >What's the law say about trading or copying sounds here in the >states? I think it's wrong to pay for the actual sounds, but if you >supply the materials so somebody can copy them for you is that >wrong? Unless you put advertising on the internet, are the copyright >holders going to press charges? I don't want to come across mean, >I'm just curious about these questions. Isn't it easier just to >throw some sounds on a floppy or 5 and send them through the mail? Great idea Denny. Better still, why pay for anything? Just get an impressive gun, and steal everything you need. It's much cheaper and way more exciting. In fact, you should even steal the gun. The fact is this: Some folks have a sense of integrity and respect and will pay for samples and products which are the result of someone else's hard work. Others just have a sense of entitlement and are believe everything should be shared around for free. Well Denny, I'll be around at your place this evening to collect all your furniture and music gear. I believe I have a right to take it. I don't believe you'll press charges...... From denny at dennydaughters.com Fri Mar 27 16:47:27 2009 From: denny at dennydaughters.com (Denny Daughters) Date: Fri Mar 27 16:54:21 2009 Subject: [sgroup] note about samples and stuff Message-ID: <614A73EFA4834C41B086BE7B4C38CA8C@dennye6ij16tob> Hi guys, Thank you for all the advice and comments. I really appreciated them. I'd never take money away from anybody who has worked hard on creating patches or sample libraries. If you have some s-50 samples you've created and you'd like to sell them to me, that's great! If you guys can point me to how to get s-50 samples that others have made, I'd be happy to pay for them too. I talked to two different departments at Roland, keyboard, and customer service this morning. Their feeling on these old stock samples is to just go ahead and trade away. They're not making any money off the old technology anymore. Denny From vlongo at comcast.net Fri Mar 27 18:22:27 2009 From: vlongo at comcast.net (Vincent Longo) Date: Fri Mar 27 17:16:03 2009 Subject: [sgroup] S-760 - Dead LCD - External Monitor Select Keypress Instructions Needed... Very Badly... Please Help. Message-ID: <49CD51A3.4030605@comcast.net> Hi! I have an S-760 with a bad internal LCD panel (not the backlight, the LCD itself) - No information displays to the LCD at all. Can someone tell me the exact series of steps (button presses) to put the unit back into the mode that allows the use of an external COMPOSITE monitor? I'll be doing it blindly, so I'll need something that reads like: "Press the 'down' button 3 times, then press the 'inc' button ". I've tried a lot of combinations, to no avail. The problem is that this menu is NOT shown in ANY of the available documentation, so I'm stuck, and I can't use my sampler. If someone could reply to this, I'd be very appreciative. It should only take 30 seconds or so. My S-760 has become a glorified paperweight because of this problem. I REALLY need someone to help out! Thanks in advance! From chaseman at socal.rr.com Fri Mar 27 18:03:55 2009 From: chaseman at socal.rr.com (Gary Chase) Date: Fri Mar 27 18:04:09 2009 Subject: [sgroup] S-760 - Dead LCD - External Monitor Select Keypress Instructions Needed... Very Badly... Please Help. In-Reply-To: <49CD51A3.4030605@comcast.net> References: <49CD51A3.4030605@comcast.net> Message-ID: <49CD4D4B.20803@socal.rr.com> If you have NO display it will be impossible to know where the cursor defaults to which could make this impossible to do since LCD contrast has 100 options (50 up and 50 down) Get your monitor hooked up if it isn't already. Power down the 760 then power up holding the MODE button down. When it powers up it will take you to one of the menus... SCSI, BOOT, CNTLR (the one you want) or LCD contrast. Turn your data entry knob one click to the right, then press EXIT to boot up off your system. If it doesn't work, power down and the next time turn it one more click to the right and press exit to boot. Do this 8 times for each menu. On the 9th time, power up holding MODE then use your up arrow and hit it one time, then repeat the process 8 times as before. I'm betting you'll get in an hour if you're lucky! Best, Gary Vincent Longo wrote: > Hi! > > I have an S-760 with a bad internal LCD panel (not the backlight, the > LCD itself) - No information displays to the LCD at all. > > Can someone tell me the exact series of steps (button presses) > to put the unit back into the mode that allows the use of an external > COMPOSITE monitor? > > I'll be doing it blindly, so I'll need something that reads like: > > "Press the 'down' button 3 times, then press the 'inc' button ". > > I've tried a lot of combinations, to no avail. The problem is that > this menu is NOT shown in ANY of the available documentation, so I'm > stuck, and I can't use my sampler. > > If someone could reply to this, I'd be very appreciative. It should > only take 30 seconds or so. > > My S-760 has become a glorified paperweight because of this problem. I > REALLY need someone to help out! > > Thanks in advance! > > _______________________________________________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > From david at roth-music.com Sat Mar 28 01:00:03 2009 From: david at roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Date: Sat Mar 28 01:00:17 2009 Subject: [sgroup] note about samples and stuff In-Reply-To: <614A73EFA4834C41B086BE7B4C38CA8C@dennye6ij16tob> References: <614A73EFA4834C41B086BE7B4C38CA8C@dennye6ij16tob> Message-ID: <642abf2e0903272200k6d5e9591x554f3a630ea5110a@mail.gmail.com> I've not looked for this in a while, but I thought at one time Roland had an FTP web site of their samples available for the public to download that was in the SDISK format. Is that still the case or has that changed. If it is still available and Roland simply doesn't want to host it, perhaps we could find hosting with their permission elsewhere with our list owner? David A. Roth On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Denny Daughters wrote: > Hi guys, > Thank you for all the advice and comments. I really appreciated them. > I'd never take money away from anybody who has worked hard on creating > patches or sample libraries. If you have some s-50 samples you've created > and you'd like to sell them to me, that's great! If you guys can point me to > how to get s-50 samples that others have made, I'd be happy to pay for them > too. > I talked to two different departments at Roland, keyboard, and customer > service this morning. Their feeling on these old stock samples is to just > go ahead and trade away. They're not making any money off the old > technology anymore. > Denny > > From jsellens at syonex.com Sat Mar 28 01:18:54 2009 From: jsellens at syonex.com (John Sellens) Date: Sat Mar 28 01:19:00 2009 Subject: [sgroup] note about samples and stuff Message-ID: <200903280518.n2S5Isbk036796@gc0.generalconcepts.com> Most of the Roland sample collection is available at http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/samples/Roland/ Jim Norman (then at Roland) arranged to send me floppy disks for me to put online. If anyone has any other samples they wish to share, I would be more than happy to put them on the sgroup web site for all to share. Cheers! John | From: "David A. Roth" | | I've not looked for this in a while, but I thought at one time Roland had an | FTP web site of their samples available for the public to download that was | in the SDISK format. Is that still the case or has that changed. If it is | still available and Roland simply doesn't want to host it, perhaps we could | find hosting with their permission elsewhere with our list owner? | David A. Roth From xpander8 at gmail.com Sat Mar 28 13:14:57 2009 From: xpander8 at gmail.com (Seppo Eskola) Date: Sat Mar 28 13:28:38 2009 Subject: [sgroup] Old sample archives Message-ID: <8fed97dd0903281014o6627a3fala1c336f95ab98c66@mail.gmail.com> Hi Nice to see lots of activity here lately, been so quiet for so long. Note for anybody downloading those old Roland samples from the SGroup archive; http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/samples/Roland/ As far as I can remember, there were couple of disks which didn't work. I have the working ones, but no time to go thru every single one to verify. So if somebody figures out which are those broken ones, I can sent the correct images. I actually got the Roland Sound Library L-CD1 disk, years after I had already downloaded he same stuff from the site.