From jason_ralf808 at tiscali.co.uk Sat Mar 13 01:48:58 2010 From: jason_ralf808 at tiscali.co.uk (Jason Adkins) Date: Sat Mar 13 02:00:17 2010 Subject: [sgroup] Non working S550 Message-ID: <41589C14-4AD1-4701-8C28-FADBDA219119@tiscali.co.uk> Hello everyone,this is my first post so please bear with me.I purchased a S550 from ebay a couple of weeks ago with library and mouse.Unfortunatly when I turned it on all it does is flash all of its LEDs constantly,the floppy light is permantly on and the display is blank. Has anybody got any idea what is wrong with it,someone suggested the RAM may have become unseated but I opened it up and everything looks soldered to the motherboard.Any help will be greatly appreciated as this is most frustrating! Thanks,Jason From igg.debus at t-online.de Sat Mar 13 06:03:50 2010 From: igg.debus at t-online.de (Ingo Debus) Date: Sat Mar 13 06:03:57 2010 Subject: [sgroup] Non working S550 In-Reply-To: <41589C14-4AD1-4701-8C28-FADBDA219119@tiscali.co.uk> References: <41589C14-4AD1-4701-8C28-FADBDA219119@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <10A8D4C0-7E6D-4832-ADAC-2BE9397ED042@t-online.de> Am 13.03.2010 um 07:48 schrieb Jason Adkins: > I purchased a S550 > from ebay a couple of weeks ago with library and mouse.Unfortunatly > when I turned it on > all it does is flash all of its LEDs constantly,the floppy light is > permantly on and the display is blank. This is probably a stupid question, but have inserted a floppy with an operating system on it? The S-550 boots from floppy, without a floppy when powered on it doesn't do anything. If your S-550 didn't come with any floppies, you can download a disk image of a floppy with an OS on it here: http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/os/S550/ I once had problems with my S-330, because the CPU chip had poor contact with its socket. But I don't know if this can happen with the S-550 too. Ingo From musos at icon.co.za Sat Mar 13 10:15:28 2010 From: musos at icon.co.za (Colin Shapiro) Date: Sat Mar 13 10:51:21 2010 Subject: [sgroup] Non working S550 In-Reply-To: <10A8D4C0-7E6D-4832-ADAC-2BE9397ED042@t-online.de> References: <41589C14-4AD1-4701-8C28-FADBDA219119@tiscali.co.uk> <10A8D4C0-7E6D-4832-ADAC-2BE9397ED042@t-online.de> Message-ID: >>I purchased a S550 >>from ebay a couple of weeks ago with library and mouse.Unfortunatly >>when I turned it on >>all it does is flash all of its LEDs constantly,the floppy light is >>permantly on and the display is blank. > >This is probably a stupid question, but have inserted a floppy with >an operating system on it? The S-550 boots from floppy, without a >floppy when powered on it doesn't do anything. Ingo is correct. My S550 will flash all LED's until it gets a system disk. However, the main panel should say [Insert sys disk] If it's blank, perhaps the panel is broken. Do you have a monitor connected? It's way easier to use with a monitor - in fact, it's just about essential. From jason_ralf808 at tiscali.co.uk Sun Mar 14 04:02:56 2010 From: jason_ralf808 at tiscali.co.uk (Jason Adkins) Date: Sun Mar 14 04:03:03 2010 Subject: [sgroup] Non working S550 Message-ID: Yes,there could be a problem with the panel as when I received the S550 the volume knob had come off,indicating it may have taken a hit on the front in the post,although the panel does occasionally light up the odd character sometimes when its turned on.I have a compatible composite monitor but all I get is a blank screen,I also have the original system disks in the wallet and a mouse. Also shouldn't the floppy drive click until it gets a disk? as I have a DJ-70 and that does until it gets a floppy. From musos at icon.co.za Sun Mar 14 15:22:23 2010 From: musos at icon.co.za (Colin Shapiro) Date: Sun Mar 14 15:28:19 2010 Subject: [sgroup] Non working S550 In-Reply-To: <8CC9193919B68A6-EC8-19793@webmail-d020.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC9193919B68A6-EC8-19793@webmail-d020.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Hi there First, be aware that you can't just hit "reply" with this group - it goes to the original sender only. You need to send posts to: sgroup@sgroup.ca Re your question: Yes, you should have a MIDI keyboard or sequencer program attached (or both) in order to trigger the samples in each patch. --------------------------------------------- >He's right It's almost Impossible to use without a monitor you can't >see what your doing. I have a question myself. I don't know if you >have the answer ! I just wanted to know if you have to hook up the >samplier to midi to use sound samples. I've been working at this for >some time. But to no avail as of yet. Help somepody From musos at icon.co.za Sun Mar 14 15:29:17 2010 From: musos at icon.co.za (Colin Shapiro) Date: Sun Mar 14 15:29:42 2010 Subject: [sgroup] Non working S550 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You have some real problems there.... Are you trying to connect a monitor via the RGB port? It's not a "normal" configuration - you need to look at S550 websites to get the correct pin-out config. Try using the Monochrome output to see if you get a display at all. It's not as pretty as full colour but at least you may be able to work..... The floppy drive does NOT click while waiting for a floppy. It's silent and inactive until you insert a disk. ---------------------------------------------- >Yes,there could be a problem with the panel as when I received the S550 >the volume knob had come off,indicating it may have taken a hit on the front >in the post,although the panel does occasionally light up the odd >character sometimes >when its turned on.I have a compatible composite monitor but all I get is a >blank screen,I also have the original system disks in the wallet and a mouse. >Also shouldn't the floppy drive click until it gets a disk? as I >have a DJ-70 and >that does until it gets a floppy. From heimhelicopters at hotmail.com Mon Mar 15 04:24:52 2010 From: heimhelicopters at hotmail.com (Steven Vermeij) Date: Mon Mar 15 04:24:59 2010 Subject: [sgroup] Non working S550 In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Looks like a problem with the power supply to me.....So much things that ain't working right. Floppy drive screen etc. > Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:29:17 +0200 > To: sgroup@sgroup.ca > From: musos@icon.co.za > Subject: Re: [sgroup] Non working S550 > > You have some real problems there.... > > Are you trying to connect a monitor via the RGB port? It's not a > "normal" configuration - you need to look at S550 websites to get the > correct pin-out config. > > Try using the Monochrome output to see if you get a display at all. > It's not as pretty as full colour but at least you may be able to > work..... > > The floppy drive does NOT click while waiting for a floppy. It's > silent and inactive until you insert a disk. > ---------------------------------------------- > > >Yes,there could be a problem with the panel as when I received the S550 > >the volume knob had come off,indicating it may have taken a hit on the front > >in the post,although the panel does occasionally light up the odd > >character sometimes > >when its turned on.I have a compatible composite monitor but all I get is a > >blank screen,I also have the original system disks in the wallet and a mouse. > >Also shouldn't the floppy drive click until it gets a disk? as I > >have a DJ-70 and > >that does until it gets a floppy. > _______________________________________________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _________________________________________________________________ Alles over Windows http://www.windows.nl/About.aspx From db at skylab2000.com Mon Mar 22 03:13:06 2010 From: db at skylab2000.com (dennis barton) Date: Mon Mar 22 03:46:48 2010 Subject: [sgroup] monitor for s series Message-ID: <737747.98195.qm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15000 Dennis Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles From jsegovia at mindspring.com Mon Mar 22 11:29:02 2010 From: jsegovia at mindspring.com (jsegovia@mindspring.com) Date: Mon Mar 22 11:29:25 2010 Subject: [sgroup] monitor for s series In-Reply-To: <737747.98195.qm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <737747.98195.qm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the heads-up. Is this color? And what connection would work with the 760? Jesse From: dennis barton To: "sgroup@sgroup.ca" Date: 03/22/2010 10:17 AM Subject: [sgroup] monitor for s series Sent by: sgroup-bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com@sgroup.ca http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15000 Dennis Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles _______________________________________________ Sent by the sgroup mailing list sgroup@sgroup.ca For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From jsegovia at mindspring.com Mon Mar 22 11:52:28 2010 From: jsegovia at mindspring.com (jsegovia@mindspring.com) Date: Mon Mar 22 11:52:59 2010 Subject: [sgroup] monitor for s series In-Reply-To: References: <737747.98195.qm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I see now that it's color. Since you'd use the RCA jacks with the 760 would you get color output? I've got both the Roland S-550 and S-760 samplers and yes, the 760 sounds much better than the 550 but I have so many samples for the 550 I always thought it would be nice to be able to use them both. I wanted to get a switcher box so I could switch between the 550 and the 760 with my CGA monitor but I never found a switcher box that would work with the proprietary Roland cable connection. I figured the easiest thing is to find another Roland cable and keep it hooked up to my other sampler and then manually connect the cable to the sampler I want to use at that moment, but I never managed to find another Roland cable. Jesse From: jsegovia@mindspring.com To: dennis barton Cc: "sgroup@sgroup.ca" Date: 03/22/2010 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [sgroup] monitor for s series Sent by: sgroup-bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com@sgroup.ca Thanks for the heads-up. Is this color? And what connection would work with the 760? Jesse From: dennis barton To: "sgroup@sgroup.ca" Date: 03/22/2010 10:17 AM Subject: [sgroup] monitor for s series Sent by: sgroup-bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com@sgroup.ca http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15000 Dennis Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles _______________________________________________ Sent by the sgroup mailing list sgroup@sgroup.ca For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _______________________________________________ Sent by the sgroup mailing list sgroup@sgroup.ca For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From bruce at skeletonhome.com Mon Mar 22 12:26:07 2010 From: bruce at skeletonhome.com (Bruce Tovsky) Date: Mon Mar 22 12:33:16 2010 Subject: [sgroup] monitor for s series In-Reply-To: References: <737747.98195.qm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <7A23011B-91D3-4C1B-A0F4-749F374C28B0@skeletonhome.com> Message-ID: <46ED0272-524D-45E4-BA53-F7C0D8CF6C57@skeletonhome.com> yes, i remember well about that 12-bit optimization. there was a great debate when the 16-bit samplers came out, particularly in the Hip Hop community, that the 12-bit stuff was way "meatier" than the 16-bit stuff. that's why the sp1200 drum machine continued to be so popular, way past its obsolescence. though i haven't fired it up in years i can't quite bring myself to lose my s550 - even though Kontakt (the software sampler i use now) can load my old s550 disks. cheers b On Mar 22, 2010, at 12:21 PM, jsegovia@mindspring.com wrote: > Yes, it can. I don't know if the 760 sounds as good with the 550 > samples as the 550 does since the 550 has this interpolated sound > thing going on that makes the 12-bit samples sound much better or at > least brighter. But I also have lots of samples for the 760 that > sound great so I'd like to be able to load the 760 samples into the > 760 and still use the 550. I don't have all that many synth modules > so it would be nice to be able to use both the Roland samplers. > > Jesse > > > > From: Bruce Tovsky > To: jsegovia@mindspring.com > Date: 03/22/2010 12:01 PM > Subject: Re: [sgroup] monitor for s series > > > > hi jesse > i was always under the impression that the 760 could load 550 samples > directly. am i wrong? > cheers > b > > On Mar 22, 2010, at 11:52 AM, jsegovia@mindspring.com wrote: > > > I see now that it's color. Since you'd use the RCA jacks with the > 760 > > would you get color output? > > > > I've got both the Roland S-550 and S-760 samplers and yes, the 760 > > sounds > > much better than the 550 but I have so many samples for the 550 I > > always > > thought it would be nice to be able to use them both. I wanted to > > get a > > switcher box so I could switch between the 550 and the 760 with my > CGA > > monitor but I never found a switcher box that would work with the > > proprietary Roland cable connection. I figured the easiest thing is > > to > > find another Roland cable and keep it hooked up to my other sampler > > and > > then manually connect the cable to the sampler I want to use at that > > moment, but I never managed to find another Roland cable. > > > > Jesse > > > > > > > > From: jsegovia@mindspring.com > > To: dennis barton > > Cc: "sgroup@sgroup.ca" > > Date: 03/22/2010 11:33 AM > > Subject: Re: [sgroup] monitor for s series > > Sent by: sgroup-bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com@sgroup.ca > > > > > > > > Thanks for the heads-up. Is this color? And what connection would > > work > > with the 760? > > > > Jesse > > > > > > > > From: dennis barton > > To: "sgroup@sgroup.ca" > > Date: 03/22/2010 10:17 AM > > Subject: [sgroup] monitor for s series > > Sent by: sgroup-bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com@sgroup.ca > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15000 > > > > Dennis > > Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > > sgroup@sgroup.ca > > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/ > > sgroup > > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > > sgroup@sgroup.ca > > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/ > > sgroup > > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > > sgroup@sgroup.ca > > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/ > > sgroup > > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com "Flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Douglas Adams From db at skylab2000.com Mon Mar 22 16:01:14 2010 From: db at skylab2000.com (dennis barton) Date: Mon Mar 22 17:05:29 2010 Subject: [sgroup] monitor for s series In-Reply-To: References: <737747.98195.qm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <400503.78633.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> At 3/22/2010 08:52 AM, jsegovia@mindspring.com wrote: >I see now that it's color. Since you'd use the RCA jacks with the >760 would you get color output? As far as I recall, s760 composite video output is color. Dennis Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles From musos at icon.co.za Mon Mar 22 19:27:23 2010 From: musos at icon.co.za (Colin Shapiro) Date: Mon Mar 22 19:27:46 2010 Subject: [sgroup] monitor for s series In-Reply-To: References: <737747.98195.qm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have both - S550 and S760 Using the RCA outputs, you get color from the S760 and black and white from the S550. I had a special switcher built for video in my studio but you could just as easily get a simple RCA switcher box to handle either the S550 or S760, as long as you don't mind seeing the S550 in B/W. This way you can connect to any TV/monitor/projector It won't be possible with the Roland cable. Regards - Colin - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >I see now that it's color. Since you'd use the RCA jacks with the 760 >would you get color output? > >I've got both the Roland S-550 and S-760 samplers and yes, the 760 sounds >much better than the 550 but I have so many samples for the 550 I always >thought it would be nice to be able to use them both. I wanted to get a >switcher box so I could switch between the 550 and the 760 with my CGA >monitor but I never found a switcher box that would work with the >proprietary Roland cable connection. I figured the easiest thing is to >find another Roland cable and keep it hooked up to my other sampler and >then manually connect the cable to the sampler I want to use at that >moment, but I never managed to find another Roland cable. > >Jesse From musos at icon.co.za Mon Mar 22 19:33:27 2010 From: musos at icon.co.za (Colin Shapiro) Date: Mon Mar 22 19:33:53 2010 Subject: [sgroup] monitor for s series In-Reply-To: <46ED0272-524D-45E4-BA53-F7C0D8CF6C57@skeletonhome.com> References: <737747.98195.qm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <7A23011B-91D3-4C1B-A0F4-749F374C28B0@skeletonhome.com> <46ED0272-524D-45E4-BA53-F7C0D8CF6C57@skeletonhome.com> Message-ID: >.......i can't quite bring myself to lose my s550 - even though >Kontakt (the software sampler i use now) can load my old s550 disks. Hi Bruce, Does Kontakt handle S550 disks well? I use the EXS24 sampler in Logic and have to go through conversions with other apps first and these are not always successful - loop tune problems etc. I have lots of S550 disks and would like to be able to easily import some of the great old sounds into Logic. I'm just lazy to have to boot up and load the old S550 every time. Regards - Colin From db at skylab2000.com Mon Mar 22 20:34:19 2010 From: db at skylab2000.com (dennis barton) Date: Mon Mar 22 20:49:48 2010 Subject: [sgroup] monitor for s series In-Reply-To: References: <737747.98195.qm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <991513.29107.qm@smtp126.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I have a switcher I made for s3000 to s760 way back when, because they shared one monitor. Very simple. At 3/22/2010 04:27 PM, Colin Shapiro wrote: >I have both - S550 and S760 >Using the RCA outputs, you get color from the S760 and black and >white from the S550. > >I had a special switcher built for video in my studio but you could >just as easily get a simple RCA switcher box to handle either the >S550 or S760, as long as you don't mind seeing the S550 in B/W. Dennis Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles From db at skylab2000.com Mon Mar 22 21:20:13 2010 From: db at skylab2000.com (dennis barton) Date: Mon Mar 22 22:29:36 2010 Subject: [sgroup] monitor for s series In-Reply-To: <991513.29107.qm@smtp126.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <737747.98195.qm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <991513.29107.qm@smtp126.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <405573.33391.qm@smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I meant s330 to s760. At 3/22/2010 05:34 PM, dennis barton wrote: >I have a switcher I made for s3000 to s760 way back when, because >they shared one monitor. Very simple. Dennis Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles From bruce at skeletonhome.com Tue Mar 23 10:35:59 2010 From: bruce at skeletonhome.com (Bruce Tovsky) Date: Tue Mar 23 10:36:10 2010 Subject: [sgroup] monitor for s series In-Reply-To: References: <737747.98195.qm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <7A23011B-91D3-4C1B-A0F4-749F374C28B0@skeletonhome.com> <46ED0272-524D-45E4-BA53-F7C0D8CF6C57@skeletonhome.com> Message-ID: <25304071-BF4C-403A-BD74-5A33D816A748@skeletonhome.com> hi colin to be honest i haven't dug out the disks and actually did a test, but the sampler docs state that it handles the format. of course, you need a floppy drive that will handle the disks as well. i have a couple of cd-rom disks as well that i'll test when i have the time, likely not for several weeks. cheers b On Mar 22, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Colin Shapiro wrote: >> .......i can't quite bring myself to lose my s550 - even though >> Kontakt (the software sampler i use now) can load my old s550 disks. > > Hi Bruce, > > Does Kontakt handle S550 disks well? > I use the EXS24 sampler in Logic and have to go through conversions > with other apps first and these are not always successful - loop > tune problems etc. > > I have lots of S550 disks and would like to be able to easily import > some of the great old sounds into Logic. I'm just lazy to have to > boot up and load the old S550 every time. > > > Regards - Colin > _______________________________________________ > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > sgroup@sgroup.ca > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/ > sgroup > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick