sgroup March 2009

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by Seppo Eskola

Hi Nice to see lots of activity here lately, been so quiet for so long. Note for anybody downloading those old Roland samples from the SGroup archive; http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/samples/Roland/ As far as I can remember, there were couple of disks which didn't work. I have the working ones, but no time to go thru every single one to verify. So if somebody figures out which are those broken ones, I can sent the correct images. I actually got the Roland Sound Library L-CD1 disk, years after I had already downloaded he same stuff from the site.

16 years, 11 months

Re: [sgroup] note about samples and stuff

by John Sellens

Most of the Roland sample collection is available at http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/samples/Roland/ Jim Norman (then at Roland) arranged to send me floppy disks for me to put online. If anyone has any other samples they wish to share, I would be more than happy to put them on the sgroup web site for all to share. Cheers! John | From: "David A. Roth" <david(a)roth-music.com> | | I've not looked for this in a while, but I thought at one time Roland had an | FTP web site of their samples available for the public to download that was | in the SDISK format. Is that still the case or has that changed. If it is | still available and Roland simply doesn't want to host it, perhaps we could | find hosting with their permission elsewhere with our list owner? | David A. Roth

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note about samples and stuff

by Denny Daughters

Hi guys, Thank you for all the advice and comments. I really appreciated them. I'd never take money away from anybody who has worked hard on creating patches or sample libraries. If you have some s-50 samples you've created and you'd like to sell them to me, that's great! If you guys can point me to how to get s-50 samples that others have made, I'd be happy to pay for them too. I talked to two different departments at Roland, keyboard, and customer service this morning. Their feeling on these old stock samples is to just go ahead and trade away. They're not making any money off the old technology anymore. Denny

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S-760 - Dead LCD - External Monitor Select Keypress Instructions Needed... Very Badly... Please Help.

by Vincent Longo

Hi! I have an S-760 with a bad internal LCD panel (not the backlight, the LCD itself) - No information displays to the LCD at all. Can someone tell me the exact series of steps (button presses) to put the unit back into the mode that allows the use of an external COMPOSITE monitor? I'll be doing it blindly, so I'll need something that reads like: "Press the 'down' button 3 times, then press the 'inc' button ". I've tried a lot of combinations, to no avail. The problem is that this menu is NOT shown in ANY of the available documentation, so I'm stuck, and I can't use my sampler. If someone could reply to this, I'd be very appreciative. It should only take 30 seconds or so. My S-760 has become a glorified paperweight because of this problem. I REALLY need someone to help out! Thanks in advance!

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curious

by Denny Daughters

What's the law say about trading or copying sounds here in the states? I think it's wrong to pay for the actual sounds, but if you supply the materials so somebody can copy them for you is that wrong? Unless you put advertising on the internet, are the copyright holders going to press charges? I don't want to come across mean, I'm just curious about these questions. Isn't it easier just to throw some sounds on a floppy or 5 and send them through the mail?

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Anyone interested in trading sounds?

by k2500x _

I just got an S-760 and it came with a nice sample collection as part of the sale, but it's getting harder and harder to find the soundware for these samplers anymore. Anyone interested in trading sounds? Please email me.... Thanks, Ken _________________________________________________________________ Internet Explorer 8 – Now Available. Faster, safer, easier. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/

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RE: [sgroup] Anyone interested in trading sounds?

by Garth Hjelte

At 02:02 PM 3/25/2009, you wrote: >How does translator output roland format? Does it write the ISO >image and then you burn it to a CD? That's one way. Another way is to write directly to a SCSI drive (like a Zip), and wrwiting to floppy support is coming. >What's the latest version of traslator? 2.9.122 >I tried it once around 2001 or so and found it so buggy as if to be unusable. It could have been; that was a long time ago. >Can I just stick in an AKAI disk and it will spit out in Roland >format? The native translation of AKAI on the roland is very slow >and painful. Plus the key velocity maps seem to be all wrong. Generally you can, but it's probably best to do one Volume or one Partition at a time. I'd like to see it do a full disk, no reason why it can't. Garth Hjelte Sampler User

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Anyone interested in trading sounds?

by k2500x _

How does translator output roland format? Does it write the ISO image and then you burn it to a CD? What's the latest version of traslator? I tried it once around 2001 or so and found it so buggy as if to be unusable. Can I just stick in an AKAI disk and it will spit out in Roland format? The native translation of AKAI on the roland is very slow and painful. Plus the key velocity maps seem to be all wrong. Ken > I find Roland S-7x CD's very easily - EatWest and QUpArts have them > still for sale on their sites. Roland I believe still sells their CD's. > > Sure, it's a little harder find the sounds, but the good news is that > they are less expensive. Additionally (company plug here) you can use > Translator www.chickensys.com to convert into Roland S-7x format from > any other format, so you aren't necessarily tied into just Roland format. > > Garth Hjelte > Sampler User > Get quick access to your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. Download FREE now! _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®.. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGT…

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Re: [sgroup] SCSI switch box?

by Bruce Tovsky

well, i did add a caveat.... thanks for the clarification. b On Mar 19, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Gary Chase wrote: > This is not true... they switch fine when the cabling has integrity > and your ID are set correctly. So many people have been doing this > for year and years.... beginning with Han Zimmer when he sampled > the London Phil specifically to be loaded into the Roland > samplers... he had racks of 32 760's going. > > Bruce Tovsky wrote: >> ken >> be aware that most of these switches do NOT support "hot >> switching". you will need to power down both s760's (and possibly >> the drives), then do the switch, then reboot. caveat: it's been >> years since i fiddled with SCSI so newer devices may have become >> available that do "hot switch", but double-check to be sure. if >> you have to power down, etc. it kind of defeats the purpose of the >> switch. i've also heard that you can sometimes connect two devices >> to the same scsi drive - go from one s760 to the drive, loop out >> of that drive to the second s760. however, i don't know if the >> 760's allow this or whether there would be other issues with this. >> research needed. >> good luck >> b >> >> On Mar 19, 2009, at 4:28 PM, k2500x _ wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Gary thanks for the reply! I went to the electronic city web >>> site and did not see any scsi switches. Any idea what model >>> number I'm looking for and what price I should expect to pay? I >>> also posted links to two switches below. Do you think these will >>> work just as good? >>> >>> >>> >>> Only one of my S760 has the video upgrade so I don't think a >>> video switch will help me, right? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks again, >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> >>> >>>> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:17:13 -0700 >>>> From: chaseman(a)socal.rr.com <mailto:chaseman@socal.rr.com> >>>> To: k2500x(a)hotmail.com <mailto:k2500x@hotmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [sgroup] SCSI switch box? >>>> >>>> We've been using 8 760s on 1 SCSI buss for years successfully... >>>> You'll need 2 boxes, 1 for SCSi and 1 for video, both with an 8 >>>> selector pot... >>>> You can order them from Electronic City in Burbank if you're in >>>> LA or check your local Radio Shack. >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> k2500x _ wrote: >>>>> Using multiple S-760s and was wondering if anyone has >>>>> experience with using manual SCSI switch boxes? >>>>> >>>>> Would like to share one scsi HD with multiple S-760s. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.cablesonline.net/abcnscsiswit1.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here is one such switch box. This claims to be an actual SCSI >>>>> switch with CN50 cables supported. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.cablesonline.net/dbabswitbox1.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here is a DB25 box that is usually used for parallel printers, >>>>> but it uses the same DB25 connector that is on the back of the >>>>> S760 so I'm not sure why it wouldn't work. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Also, is there an actual difference between SCSI and parallel >>>>> DB25 cables? I understand that you should not interface one >>>>> with the other, but is the actual DB25 cable itself different? >>>>> The reason I ask is because parallel cables are so much cheaper. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance! >>>>> >>>>>> For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/ >>>>>> listinfo/sgroup >>>>> See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Windows Live™ Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite >>> groups to meet. >>> http://windowslive.com/online/groups? >>> ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009_____________________________________ >>> __________ >>> Sent by the sgroup mailing list >>> sgroup(a)sgroup.ca <mailto:sgroup@sgroup.ca> >>> For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/ >>> sgroup >>> See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >> >> bruce tovsky >> >> www.skeletonhome.com >> >> >> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >> >> Albert Einstein >> >> >

16 years, 11 months

RE: [sgroup] SCSI switch box?

by k2500x _

Hi Gary thanks for the reply! I went to the electronic city web site and did not see any scsi switches. Any idea what model number I'm looking for and what price I should expect to pay? I also posted links to two switches below. Do you think these will work just as good? Only one of my S760 has the video upgrade so I don't think a video switch will help me, right? Thanks again, Ken > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:17:13 -0700 > From: chaseman(a)socal.rr.com > To: k2500x(a)hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [sgroup] SCSI switch box? > > We've been using 8 760s on 1 SCSI buss for years successfully... You'll > need 2 boxes, 1 for SCSi and 1 for video, both with an 8 selector pot.. > You can order them from Electronic City in Burbank if you're in LA or > check your local Radio Shack. > Gary > > k2500x _ wrote: > > Using multiple S-760s and was wondering if anyone has experience with using manual SCSI switch boxes? > > > > Would like to share one scsi HD with multiple S-760s. > > > > > > > > http://www.cablesonline.net/abcnscsiswit1.html > > > > > > > > Here is one such switch box. This claims to be an actual SCSI switch with CN50 cables supported. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cablesonline.net/dbabswitbox1.html > > > > > > > > Here is a DB25 box that is usually used for parallel printers, but it uses the same DB25 connector that is on the back of the S760 so I'm not sure why it wouldn't work. > > > > > > > > Also, is there an actual difference between SCSI and parallel DB25 cables? I understand that you should not interface one with the other, but is the actual DB25 cable itself different? The reason I ask is because parallel cables are so much cheaper. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > >> > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009

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