Oh, I see, it's quite strange.
the smt velocity does not control the actual velocity of the note,
(the Note on still does), but sometimes you can have a multi velocity
partial which has say 4 samples which chop the Velocity up into
sections.
Partial #1
Sample 1 = 1->40
Sample 2 = 30->60
Sample 3 = 50 -> 100
Sample 4 = 90 -> 127
Note how the samples overlap so we can use the crossfades.
When a Note On is received, the partial must know the Velocity so it
knows which samples to trigger. If the SMT is set to say a CC#2 and
SMT Velocity Control is set to off, then the value of CC#2 will
determine the Velocity.
However the Velocity of the Note on will still determine how loud the
samples sound.
Though, on the otherhand, if the SMT velocity control is set to On (or
Note ON controlled), then the incoming Note On velocities are used to
determine which velocity section of the partial to trigger.
Adrian
Hi,
I'm having trouble understanding what this parameter does. There's a
SMT Velocity Control
I know the Velocity is controlled by the Note On Data 3 byte, but when
the SMT Vel Control is set to Off, and the the Patch Has it's SMT
Control Selection set to Ctrl Change, and the Ctrl Sel is set to #30,
shouldn't the CC#30 control the velocity of the Resulting SMT / Note
Ons?
So the Value of CC#30 controls the velocity and not the Note Ons?
It doesn't seem to be working for me... and this is testing under the
performance tab.
Am I missing something here?
Cheers,
Adrian
Dealextreme also has tiny monitors last time I looked, if you prefer
a dedicated monitor.
At 7/12/2011 01:12 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
>Take a look at my setup here.
>
>I use an HVR-900 which has both Composite and Svideo capture (as well
>as DVB) you can pick one of these up for about $10 at electronic
>hardware stores..
>https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oPlLaqXBtbM/TfQa3V6jqoI/AAAAAAAAFt0/Mwav…
>
>
>Here's a link with Free shipping:
>http://www.dealextreme.com/p/easycap-usb-video-capture-adapter-5707
>It's only $8!
>
>
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> > 1. Re: Windows S760 Editor (Richard Sven Patterson)
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> > 3. Re: Windows S760 Editor (marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com)
> > 4. Re: Windows S760 Editor (Marcel Prisi)
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:22:49 -0500
> > From: Richard Sven Patterson <rsp(a)richardsven.com>
> > Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> > To: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com, sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> > Message-ID: <a06240800ca41ed048c7d(a)[192.168.2.211]>
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> > At 8:34 AM -0400 12/7/11, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > >No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have 2
> > >back in my setup.
> > >
> > >Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with
> > >something newer, low cost btw ?
> >
> >
> > anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and
> > harder to find
> >
> > rsp
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > >
> > >>Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do. I find
> > >>that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a S760
> > aint
> > >>too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
> > >>
> > >>Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
> > >>
> > >>=====
> > >>
> > >>Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to
> > "decipher"
> > >>the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would be a
> > piece
> > >>of p1ss.
> > >>
> > >>I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex byte and
> > >>see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I know
> > Kontakt,
> > >>ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure they
> > didn't
> > >>reverse engineer the darn thing!
> > >>
> > >>Any ideas?
> > >>
> > >>Cheers,
> > >>
> > >>Adrian
> > >>
> > >>On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be nice.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>Hi guys,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would write ISO
> > >>>>files
> > >>>>for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT Display
> > >>>>that
> > >>>>the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the parameters
> > >>>>easier.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone else find
> > >>>>this
> > >>>>software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is powerful,
> > >>>>but
> > >>>>it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers of
> > >>>>complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or better?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Cheers,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Adrian
> > >>>>______________________________**_________________
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> > http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/>for
> > >>>>more information.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > >>>Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
> > >>>
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> > --
> > richard sven patterson
> > rsp(a)richardsven.com
> > 876-869-5902 (digicel)
> > 876-620-8899 (fax)
> > 305-433-4143 (vonage)
> > "Find a job you love and you will never work a day in your life."
> > skype:houndogmusic
> > http://www.myspace.com/richardsven
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:13:27 -0400
> > From: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> > To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> > Message-ID: <929624DB-01EA-4B72-9CF8-89BC5CC87B7F(a)gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
> >
> > Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
> >
> > On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Richard Sven Patterson wrote:
> >
> > > At 8:34 AM -0400 12/7/11, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > >> No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have
> > >> 2 back in my setup.
> > >>
> > >> Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with
> > >> something newer, low cost btw ?
> > >
> > >
> > > anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and
> > > harder to find
> > >
> > > rsp
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do.
> > >>> I find
> > >>> that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a
> > >>> S760 aint
> > >>> too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
> > >>>
> > >>> Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
> > >>>
> > >>> =====
> > >>>
> > >>> Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to
> > >>> "decipher"
> > >>> the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would
> > >>> be a piece
> > >>> of p1ss.
> > >>>
> > >>> I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex
> > >>> byte and
> > >>> see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I know
> > >>> Kontakt,
> > >>> ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure
> > >>> they didn't
> > >>> reverse engineer the darn thing!
> > >>>
> > >>> Any ideas?
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>>
> > >>> Adrian
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be nice.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi guys,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would
> > >>>>> write ISO
> > >>>>> files
> > >>>>> for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT
> > >>>>> Display
> > >>>>> that
> > >>>>> the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the
> > >>>>> parameters
> > >>>>> easier.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone
> > >>>>> else find
> > >>>>> this
> > >>>>> software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is
> > >>>>> powerful,
> > >>>>> but
> > >>>>> it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers of
> > >>>>> complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or
> > >>>>> better?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Adrian
> > >>>>> ______________________________**_________________
> > >>>>> Sent by the sgroup mailing list
> > >>>>> sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
> > >>>>> For subscribe/unsubscribe:
> > http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/**listinfo/sgroup
> > >>>>> <http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup>
> > >>>>> See http://www.generalconcepts.**com/sgroup/<
> > http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/
> > >>>>> >for more information.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > >>>> Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
> > >>>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> Sent by the sgroup mailing list
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> > http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup
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> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >> See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > richard sven patterson
> > > rsp(a)richardsven.com
> > > 876-869-5902 (digicel)
> > > 876-620-8899 (fax)
> > > 305-433-4143 (vonage)
> > > "Find a job you love and you will never work a day in your life."
> > > skype:houndogmusic
> > > http://www.myspace.com/richardsven
> > > http://soundsculptist.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:43:56 -0400
> > From: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> > To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> > Message-ID: <6DF59408-901D-42BA-9B02-5C0D96D00A0F(a)gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> >
> >
> >
> > > yes, but small, and affordable perhaps, nothing to overkill.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jul 12, 2011, at 11:11 AM, dennis dodd wrote:
> > >
> > >> For what, more modern video display?
> > >>
> > >> From: "marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com" <marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com>
> > >> To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:13 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> > >>
> > >> Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:20:42 +0200 (CEST)
> > From: Marcel Prisi <marcel(a)virtua.ch>
> > Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> > To: marais de cygnes <marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com>
> > Cc: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> > Message-ID: <a4ed436c-655d-4365-8d28-2c4c5d39ebff@hannibal>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have been using TV cards on laptops/PC's, you can find low cost USB or
> > PCI cards everywhere, just check that they have an svideo input AND
> > cable/plug.
> >
> > This way you don't waste more space than necessary, and can use Alt-Tab to
> > switch to your sampler (still have to use the other mouse unfortunately).
> >
> > This one looks OK :
> >
> > http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_usblive2.html
> >
> > If the bundled software is a bit of an overkill, you can try this one :
> >
> > http://www.kastortv.org
> >
> > I found it to be just excellent.
> >
> > Kind regards.
> >
> > ----- Mail original -----
> > > Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
> > >
> > > On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Richard Sven Patterson wrote:
> > >
> > > > At 8:34 AM -0400 12/7/11, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have
> > > >> 2 back in my setup.
> > > >>
> > > >> Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with
> > > >> something newer, low cost btw ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and
> > > > harder to find
> > > >
> > > > rsp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do.
> > > >>> I find
> > > >>> that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a
> > > >>> S760 aint
> > > >>> too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> =====
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to
> > > >>> "decipher"
> > > >>> the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would
> > > >>> be a piece
> > > >>> of p1ss.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex
> > > >>> byte and
> > > >>> see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I
> > > >>> know
> > > >>> Kontakt,
> > > >>> ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure
> > > >>> they didn't
> > > >>> reverse engineer the darn thing!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Any ideas?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Cheers,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Adrian
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton
> > > >>> <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be
> > > >>>> nice.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi guys,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would
> > > >>>>> write ISO
> > > >>>>> files
> > > >>>>> for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT
> > > >>>>> Display
> > > >>>>> that
> > > >>>>> the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the
> > > >>>>> parameters
> > > >>>>> easier.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone
> > > >>>>> else find
> > > >>>>> this
> > > >>>>> software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is
> > > >>>>> powerful,
> > > >>>>> but
> > > >>>>> it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers
> > > >>>>> of
> > > >>>>> complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or
> > > >>>>> better?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Cheers,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Adrian
> > > >>>>> ______________________________**_________________
> > > >>>>> Sent by the sgroup mailing list
> > > >>>>> sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
> > > >>>>> For subscribe/unsubscribe:
> > > >>>>> http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/**listinfo/sgroup
> > > >>>>> <http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup>
> > > >>>>> See
> > > >>>>> http://www.generalconcepts.**com/sgroup/<
> > http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/
> > > >>>>> >for more information.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > > >>>> Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>> Sent by the sgroup mailing list
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> > > >>> For subscribe/unsubscribe:
> > > >>> http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup
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> > > >>
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > richard sven patterson
> > > > rsp(a)richardsven.com
> > > > 876-869-5902 (digicel)
> > > > 876-620-8899 (fax)
> > > > 305-433-4143 (vonage)
> > > > "Find a job you love and you will never work a day in your life."
> > > > skype:houndogmusic
> > > > http://www.myspace.com/richardsven
> > > > http://soundsculptist.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:43:35 -0400
> > From: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> > To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> > Message-ID: <513092D0-CE7C-4228-B583-3CD0BECB5318(a)gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
> >
> > anyone doing this with a mac display btw ?
> >
> > On Jul 12, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Marcel Prisi wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have been using TV cards on laptops/PC's, you can find low cost
> > > USB or PCI cards everywhere, just check that they have an svideo
> > > input AND cable/plug.
> > >
> > > This way you don't waste more space than necessary, and can use Alt-
> > > Tab to switch to your sampler (still have to use the other mouse
> > > unfortunately).
> > >
> > > This one looks OK :
> > >
> > > http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_usblive2.html
> > >
> > > If the bundled software is a bit of an overkill, you can try this
> > > one :
> > >
> > > http://www.kastortv.org
> > >
> > > I found it to be just excellent.
> > >
> > > Kind regards.
> > >
> > > ----- Mail original -----
> > >> Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
> > >>
> > >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Richard Sven Patterson wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> At 8:34 AM -0400 12/7/11, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>> No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have
> > >>>> 2 back in my setup.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with
> > >>>> something newer, low cost btw ?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and
> > >>> harder to find
> > >>>
> > >>> rsp
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do.
> > >>>>> I find
> > >>>>> that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a
> > >>>>> S760 aint
> > >>>>> too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> =====
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to
> > >>>>> "decipher"
> > >>>>> the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would
> > >>>>> be a piece
> > >>>>> of p1ss.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex
> > >>>>> byte and
> > >>>>> see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I
> > >>>>> know
> > >>>>> Kontakt,
> > >>>>> ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure
> > >>>>> they didn't
> > >>>>> reverse engineer the darn thing!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Any ideas?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Adrian
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton
> > >>>>> <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be
> > >>>>>> nice.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi guys,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would
> > >>>>>>> write ISO
> > >>>>>>> files
> > >>>>>>> for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT
> > >>>>>>> Display
> > >>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>> the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the
> > >>>>>>> parameters
> > >>>>>>> easier.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone
> > >>>>>>> else find
> > >>>>>>> this
> > >>>>>>> software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is
> > >>>>>>> powerful,
> > >>>>>>> but
> > >>>>>>> it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers
> > >>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>> complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or
> > >>>>>>> better?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Adrian
> > >>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
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If it's good enough for Eric...
I can't fairly judge Kontact since I don't own a copy, but I have Structure libraries for the Fantom and Triton, and they fall well short of the JV and Trinity hardware I keep in the rack. I suppose it could have as much (or more) to do with the quality of sampling, but it's true to my ears none-the-less...
On Wed Jul 13th, 2011 1:00 AM EDT Richard Sven Patterson wrote:
>On Tue, July 12, 2011 11:30 pm, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
>> and the S750 is even better thanthe 760 but thats a whole nother shit
>> storm : )
>
>good sources says the 770 was king:
>http://www.vi-control.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=186943#186943
>
>
>from:
>
>http://www.vi-control.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14445
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 11:43 PM, Richard Sven Patterson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> coming in late.
>>>
>>> contrart to what some others said, my own two cents is the DA and
>>> the filters on the s0760 kill.
>>>
>>> yes the DA's aren't as clean as my lynx or someones apogee etc. but
>>> to me they were 'warm' 'fat' and all those other cliches.
>>>
>>> and the filters for me were superb....
>>>
>>> ymmv
>>>
>>> rsp
>>>
>>> At 7:23 PM -0700 12/7/11, dennis barton wrote:
>>>> \
>>>> I never thought the s760 had a good filter at all. Usable, but
>>>> nothing like an analog synth.
>>>>
>>>> Now if we are talking about *latency*, then the s760 is better than
>>>> these Windows based samplers, even with the fastest drivers.
>>>> Latency is no real issue for most of you, but it is for playing
>>>> samplers live.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 7/12/2011 01:34 PM, Colin Shapiro wrote:
>>>>> Sure, and vinyl is better than digital and they don't even make
>>>>> movies like they used to back in the 1930's.
>>>>>
>>>>> Henry Ford once said that if he had asked people what they wanted,
>>>>> they would have said "a faster horse".
>>>>> ________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 22:37, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> But the D/A's in most cases our inferior to the S760 unless you
>>>>>> have cotton in your ears. Also the Filter in the S760 is better
>>>>>> as well, and perhaps a coincidence the music being made with
>>>>>> hardware samples was much better than 90% of the pure crap we
>>>>>> hear now in the box.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
>>>> Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
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I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be nice.
At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
>Hi guys,
>
>I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would write ISO files
>for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
>
>It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT Display that
>the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the parameters
>easier.
>
>I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone else find this
>software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is powerful, but
>it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers of
>complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
>
>Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or better?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Adrian
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Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
http://translate.google.co.nz/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://park19.wakwak.…
It's got a lot of useful information including a link to the S760 MIDI
Implementation chart, how to add CFDisk to the S760, and much much
more!
Perhaps this is a better way than a Windows Editor mirroring the S760
UI, but for the program to send down MIDI data which Manipulates the
data on the S760.??
Adrian
Take a look at my setup here.
I use an HVR-900 which has both Composite and Svideo capture (as well
as DVB) you can pick one of these up for about $10 at electronic
hardware stores..
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oPlLaqXBtbM/TfQa3V6jqoI/AAAAAAAAFt0/Mwav…
Here's a link with Free shipping:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/easycap-usb-video-capture-adapter-5707
It's only $8!
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> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:22:49 -0500
> From: Richard Sven Patterson <rsp(a)richardsven.com>
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> To: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com, sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
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> At 8:34 AM -0400 12/7/11, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> >No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have 2
> >back in my setup.
> >
> >Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with
> >something newer, low cost btw ?
>
>
> anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and
> harder to find
>
> rsp
>
>
>
> >
> >On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> >
> >>Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do. I find
> >>that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a S760
> aint
> >>too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
> >>
> >>Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
> >>
> >>=====
> >>
> >>Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to
> "decipher"
> >>the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would be a
> piece
> >>of p1ss.
> >>
> >>I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex byte and
> >>see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I know
> Kontakt,
> >>ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure they
> didn't
> >>reverse engineer the darn thing!
> >>
> >>Any ideas?
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>
> >>Adrian
> >>
> >>On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be nice.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Hi guys,
> >>>>
> >>>>I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would write ISO
> >>>>files
> >>>>for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> >>>>
> >>>>It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT Display
> >>>>that
> >>>>the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the parameters
> >>>>easier.
> >>>>
> >>>>I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone else find
> >>>>this
> >>>>software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is powerful,
> >>>>but
> >>>>it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers of
> >>>>complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> >>>>
> >>>>Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or better?
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>>Adrian
> >>>>______________________________**_________________
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> >>>>more information.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> >>>Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
> >>>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:13:27 -0400
> From: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
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> Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
>
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Richard Sven Patterson wrote:
>
> > At 8:34 AM -0400 12/7/11, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> >> No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have
> >> 2 back in my setup.
> >>
> >> Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with
> >> something newer, low cost btw ?
> >
> >
> > anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and
> > harder to find
> >
> > rsp
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do.
> >>> I find
> >>> that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a
> >>> S760 aint
> >>> too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
> >>>
> >>> Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
> >>>
> >>> =====
> >>>
> >>> Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to
> >>> "decipher"
> >>> the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would
> >>> be a piece
> >>> of p1ss.
> >>>
> >>> I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex
> >>> byte and
> >>> see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I know
> >>> Kontakt,
> >>> ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure
> >>> they didn't
> >>> reverse engineer the darn thing!
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Adrian
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be nice.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would
> >>>>> write ISO
> >>>>> files
> >>>>> for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT
> >>>>> Display
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the
> >>>>> parameters
> >>>>> easier.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone
> >>>>> else find
> >>>>> this
> >>>>> software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is
> >>>>> powerful,
> >>>>> but
> >>>>> it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers of
> >>>>> complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or
> >>>>> better?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Adrian
> >>>>> ______________________________**_________________
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> http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/**listinfo/sgroup
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> >>>>> See http://www.generalconcepts.**com/sgroup/<
> http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/
> >>>>> >for more information.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> >>>> Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
> >>>>
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> > rsp(a)richardsven.com
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> > 305-433-4143 (vonage)
> > "Find a job you love and you will never work a day in your life."
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>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:43:56 -0400
> From: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> Message-ID: <6DF59408-901D-42BA-9B02-5C0D96D00A0F(a)gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>
>
> > yes, but small, and affordable perhaps, nothing to overkill.
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Jul 12, 2011, at 11:11 AM, dennis dodd wrote:
> >
> >> For what, more modern video display?
> >>
> >> From: "marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com" <marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com>
> >> To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:13 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> >>
> >> Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:20:42 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Marcel Prisi <marcel(a)virtua.ch>
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> To: marais de cygnes <marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> Message-ID: <a4ed436c-655d-4365-8d28-2c4c5d39ebff@hannibal>
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>
> Hi,
>
> I have been using TV cards on laptops/PC's, you can find low cost USB or
> PCI cards everywhere, just check that they have an svideo input AND
> cable/plug.
>
> This way you don't waste more space than necessary, and can use Alt-Tab to
> switch to your sampler (still have to use the other mouse unfortunately).
>
> This one looks OK :
>
> http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_usblive2.html
>
> If the bundled software is a bit of an overkill, you can try this one :
>
> http://www.kastortv.org
>
> I found it to be just excellent.
>
> Kind regards.
>
> ----- Mail original -----
> > Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
> >
> > On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Richard Sven Patterson wrote:
> >
> > > At 8:34 AM -0400 12/7/11, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > >> No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have
> > >> 2 back in my setup.
> > >>
> > >> Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with
> > >> something newer, low cost btw ?
> > >
> > >
> > > anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and
> > > harder to find
> > >
> > > rsp
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do.
> > >>> I find
> > >>> that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a
> > >>> S760 aint
> > >>> too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
> > >>>
> > >>> Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
> > >>>
> > >>> =====
> > >>>
> > >>> Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to
> > >>> "decipher"
> > >>> the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would
> > >>> be a piece
> > >>> of p1ss.
> > >>>
> > >>> I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex
> > >>> byte and
> > >>> see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I
> > >>> know
> > >>> Kontakt,
> > >>> ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure
> > >>> they didn't
> > >>> reverse engineer the darn thing!
> > >>>
> > >>> Any ideas?
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>>
> > >>> Adrian
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton
> > >>> <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be
> > >>>> nice.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi guys,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would
> > >>>>> write ISO
> > >>>>> files
> > >>>>> for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT
> > >>>>> Display
> > >>>>> that
> > >>>>> the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the
> > >>>>> parameters
> > >>>>> easier.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone
> > >>>>> else find
> > >>>>> this
> > >>>>> software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is
> > >>>>> powerful,
> > >>>>> but
> > >>>>> it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers
> > >>>>> of
> > >>>>> complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or
> > >>>>> better?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Adrian
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:43:35 -0400
> From: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
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> anyone doing this with a mac display btw ?
>
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Marcel Prisi wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have been using TV cards on laptops/PC's, you can find low cost
> > USB or PCI cards everywhere, just check that they have an svideo
> > input AND cable/plug.
> >
> > This way you don't waste more space than necessary, and can use Alt-
> > Tab to switch to your sampler (still have to use the other mouse
> > unfortunately).
> >
> > This one looks OK :
> >
> > http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_usblive2.html
> >
> > If the bundled software is a bit of an overkill, you can try this
> > one :
> >
> > http://www.kastortv.org
> >
> > I found it to be just excellent.
> >
> > Kind regards.
> >
> > ----- Mail original -----
> >> Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
> >>
> >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Richard Sven Patterson wrote:
> >>
> >>> At 8:34 AM -0400 12/7/11, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have
> >>>> 2 back in my setup.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with
> >>>> something newer, low cost btw ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and
> >>> harder to find
> >>>
> >>> rsp
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do.
> >>>>> I find
> >>>>> that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a
> >>>>> S760 aint
> >>>>> too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =====
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to
> >>>>> "decipher"
> >>>>> the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would
> >>>>> be a piece
> >>>>> of p1ss.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex
> >>>>> byte and
> >>>>> see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I
> >>>>> know
> >>>>> Kontakt,
> >>>>> ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure
> >>>>> they didn't
> >>>>> reverse engineer the darn thing!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any ideas?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Adrian
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton
> >>>>> <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be
> >>>>>> nice.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would
> >>>>>>> write ISO
> >>>>>>> files
> >>>>>>> for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT
> >>>>>>> Display
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>> the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the
> >>>>>>> parameters
> >>>>>>> easier.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone
> >>>>>>> else find
> >>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>> software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is
> >>>>>>> powerful,
> >>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>> it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or
> >>>>>>> better?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Adrian
> >>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
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> >>>>>>> See
> >>>>>>> http://www.generalconcepts.**com/sgroup/<
> http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/
> >>>>>>>> for more information.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> >>>>>> Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
> >>>>>>
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> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> richard sven patterson
> >>> rsp(a)richardsven.com
> >>> 876-869-5902 (digicel)
> >>> 876-620-8899 (fax)
> >>> 305-433-4143 (vonage)
> >>> "Find a job you love and you will never work a day in your life."
> >>> skype:houndogmusic
> >>> http://www.myspace.com/richardsven
> >>> http://soundsculptist.blogspot.com/
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>
I'm on the list because I have an S-760 (and an S-550) and I still use them from time to time, though less and less as it happens. I like to keep in touch with discussions that are relevant to me.
I have some great S-760 sample libraries (eg Spectrasonics stuff) and I don't have time to do conversions of all of these for EXS24 or Kontakt.
I fully respect the old hardware for what it is and what it can do, but being able to run several GB of samples on an 8-core Mac (as opposed to 32 MB on an S-760) serves my needs just fine.
______________________________________________
On Jul 12, 2011, at 22:53, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> why are you on the list then ?
>
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Colin Shapiro wrote:
>
>> Sure, and vinyl is better than digital and they don't even make movies like they used to back in the 1930's.
>>
>> Henry Ford once said that if he had asked people what they wanted, they would have said "a faster horse".
>> ________________________________________________
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 22:37, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> But the D/A's in most cases our inferior to the S760 unless you have cotton in your ears. Also the Filter in the S760 is better as well, and perhaps a coincidence the music being made with hardware samples was much better than 90% of the pure crap we hear now in the box.
>>> YMMV
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Colin Shapiro wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have 2 back in my setup.
>>>>
>>>> I have to disagree with that.
>>>> Software samplers these days are incredibly powerful and they sound superb.
>>>> I use Logic's EXS24 and Kontakt and they have capabilities that the S-760 can't even dream of.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with something newer, low cost btw ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and harder to find
>>>>
>>>> You don't even need s-video.
>>>> The S-760 has a composite video output and all you need is an RCA to RCA cable (preferably co-axial cable) and you can do straight into any TV or monitor, using Video In. That's how I have mine set up.
>>>>
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>
> yes, but small, and affordable perhaps, nothing to overkill.
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 11:11 AM, dennis dodd wrote:
>
>> For what, more modern video display?
>>
>> From: "marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com" <marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com>
>> To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
>>
>> Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
>>
>>
>
To me, Directwave is just the right amount of complex.
At 7/11/2011 09:33 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
>Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do. I find
>that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a S760 aint
>too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
>
>Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
>
>=====
>
>Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to "decipher"
>the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would be a piece
>of p1ss.
>
>I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex byte and
>see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I know Kontakt,
>ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure they didn't
>reverse engineer the darn thing!
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Adrian
>
>On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton <db(a)skylab2000.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be nice.
> >
> >
> >
> > At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> >
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would write ISO
> >> files
> >> for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> >>
> >> It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT Display
> >> that
> >> the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the parameters
> >> easier.
> >>
> >> I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone else find
> >> this
> >> software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is powerful,
> >> but
> >> it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers of
> >> complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> >>
> >> Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or better?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Adrian
> >> ______________________________**_________________
> >> Sent by the sgroup mailing list
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> http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/**listinfo/sgroup<http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup>
> >> See
> http://www.generalconcepts.**com/sgroup/<http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/>for
> more information.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
> >
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