22 Dec
2006
22 Dec
'06
1:06 p.m.
Hi Garth
I checked my site and it seems not always work well: I dont know why.
Anyway, the direct link is: http://jm1200.free.fr/binaries/S760CTDIF.zip
(I added the source file to the Zip)
I also made bug report with examples few months ago (B.R. 2586/2610).
After few attempts, I decided to try myself and I found the pbm with a hexa
editor and a lot of tests.
Hope it will help you to track the bug.
JMD
Note: Translator is a great tool and the free version is a nice idea for
amateur musicians like me.
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site
(Thomas Malmberg)
2. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site
(Denny Daughters)
3. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site
(Thomas Malmberg)
4. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site (Peter V)
5. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site
(Garth Hjelte)
6. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site
(Garth Hjelte)
7. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site
(Garth Hjelte)
8. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site
(Garth Hjelte)
9. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site
(Garth Hjelte)
10. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site
(Christian Keck)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:14:31 +0200
From: Thomas Malmberg <malmberg(a)iki.fi>
Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web
site
To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
Message-ID: <458AF937.5040604(a)iki.fi>
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http://www.skickafilen.se/download.jsp;jsessionid=B932630716F190E386565CBC6…
Pardon for the location as it may be far away from most of you, but
yousendshit.com requires a login of some sort, and this doesn't.
Let's hope it works.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:16:30 -0700
From: "Denny Daughters" <denny(a)dennydaughters.com>
Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web
site
To: <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
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I'm pretty sure if you sample a snare hit or a note, artists don't consider
it infringement. When you sample part of a song, that's when they start
getting unhappy if you haven't asked permission. Or let's say a guitar
lick
or a obvious drum fill, that's when they start frowning. By all means, ask
permission from Zildjian to use the existing samples, you never know, they
might say yes.
Denny
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:22:12 +0200
From: Thomas Malmberg <malmberg(a)iki.fi>
Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web
site
To: Denny Daughters <denny(a)dennydaughters.com>
Cc: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
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Denny Daughters wrote:
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I'm pretty sure if you sample a snare hit or
a note, artists don't
consider it infringement. When you sample part of a song, that's when
No probably not, but when you systematically download 37 sounds and make
them into a sampler-standard and upload that to the internet, they might
consider it something else than casual lending of a sound. But anyway,
for uncommercial use, I use whatever. If I some day become rich with my
music, I'll just buy one of each of those cymbals and use as frisbees.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:33:26 +0100
From: "Peter V" <peter.vermeeren(a)hetnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web
site
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It works fine, thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Malmberg" <malmberg(a)iki.fi>
To: <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site
Pardon for the location as it may be far away from most of you, but
yousendshit.com requires a login of some sort, and this doesn't.
Let's hope it works.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:46:43 -0600
From: Garth Hjelte <garth(a)chickensys.com>
Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web
site
To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
Message-ID: <20061222050213.4C48E1B5AD0(a)s5.syonex.com>
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At 01:04 AM 12/18/2006, you wrote:
Unfortunately Chickensys' software still does
not work for me on my
S-760. The generated CD-image is still faulty and thus the S-760 is not
able to load the samples correctly, in fact it loads just "silence"
instead.
I did some testing for them and Garth Hjelte
promised me to get back to
me as soon as the bugs are located and fixed. This has been in February
if I remember right. I'm still waiting...
It was fixed a long time ago, we just don't reply to any or every
person unless there is a Bug Report filled out (which none were, I
just checked).
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:42:10 -0600
From: Garth Hjelte <garth(a)chickensys.com>
Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web
site
To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
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At 06:37 AM 12/18/2006, you wrote:
I guess those guys must be REALLY busy updating
their software for other
sampler formats - they've been promising full S-7XX support for years.
Isn't Garth still on this list?
Still here. WAV->S-7x has been supported and workable in Translator
for a long time.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:42:07 -0600
From: Garth Hjelte <garth(a)chickensys.com>
Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web
site
To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
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At 01:04 AM 12/18/2006, you wrote:
Unfortunately Chickensys' software still does
not work for me on my
S-760. The generated CD-image is still faulty and thus the S-760 is not
able to load the samples correctly, in fact it loads just "silence"
instead.
I did some testing for them and Garth Hjelte
promised me to get back to
me as soon as the bugs are located and fixed. This has been in February
if I remember right. I'm still waiting...
It was fixed a long time ago, we just don't reply to any or every
person unless there is a Bug Report filled out (which none were, I
just checked).
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
------------------------------
Message: 8
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:42:05 -0600
From: Garth Hjelte <garth(a)chickensys.com>
Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web
site
To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
Message-ID: <20061222054524.76D0F1B5C82(a)s5.syonex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
At 08:24 PM 12/17/2006, you wrote:
Say, has anybody gone over to the Zildjian web
site and 'borrowed' some
of the samples they have for their cymbals? They've got multiple
samples for just about all of their cymbals, and some of them,
especially the Chinas, are unbelievable!
It shouldn't be much trouble to convert them from mp3 to wav and load
them into a sampler that supports wav format. Does Chickensys or any
translation software finally allow you to load wav files into the Roland
samplers?
Yes, Translator has done this for a long time.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:42:02 -0600
From: Garth Hjelte <garth(a)chickensys.com>
Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web
site
To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
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At 09:44 AM 12/19/2006, you wrote:
Unfortunately there seem to be other serious bugs
in Translator. One big
one is, that it sometimes do not compute the beginning and ending of
sample(wave)data correctly,
leading so something like this here: http://home.arcor.de/tonmann/pic.png
Now since it's the "real data" the is ripped wrong, JMD's program has
of
course no chance to fix the loop-points.
What a pity! Where are so close to have a real working solution.
Hey Chickensys, you should hire JMD. He just casually wrote a small tool
that fixes what you guys couldn't fix for quite a long time now. And he
did not have all the internal specs I suppose...
His page showed Error 500 for me; however, we make Virtual Drive's
for S-7x all the time and it's worked for a long time. I don't know
what bug you are referring to; if there was one, it was fixed a long time
ago.
As we say many times, if you find a bug, just let us know by filling
out a Bug Report www.chickensys.com/translator/bugreports and give an
example. We'll be right on it and fix it ASAP and put up a public or
private build ASAP. We always do that; it's strange to hear reports
that a bug is persistent.
If in doubt, just contact us.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:11:50 +0100
From: Christian Keck <c.keck(a)gmx.net>
Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web
site
To: Garth Hjelte <garth(a)chickensys.com>om>, sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
Message-ID: <458BD996.9040503(a)gmx.net>
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This is not true, Garth!
I still have the dozen of emails here in my archive of the conversation
we both had after I had posted a detailed bugreport on your bugtracker,
including screenshots, byte-offsets of the wrong data in the image file,
etc... This was with version build 104. You told me that you have no
chance to test if on a real S-760 yourself since the display has died
and you need to.
I just checked the archive. The first mail-contact I had with you was on
11/08/2004. In that email I already described the problem detailed (that
days build 64).
However, it still does not work for me, even with build 108 it' still
exactly the same: The S-760 seems to load "empty" samples. So where is
this bug "fixed a long time ago"?
cheers,
Chris
Garth Hjelte schrieb:
At 01:04 AM 12/18/2006, you wrote:
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************************************* Unfortunately Chickensys' software still
does not work for me on my
S-760. The generated CD-image is still faulty and thus the S-760 is not
able to load the samples correctly, in fact it loads just "silence"
instead.
I did some testing for them and Garth Hjelte promised me to get back to
me as soon as the bugs are located and fixed. This has been in February
if I remember right. I'm still waiting...
It was fixed a long time ago, we just don't reply to any or every
person unless there is a Bug Report filled out (which none were, I
just checked).
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
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