Re: sgroup Digest, Vol 51, Issue 6 - sgroup

12 Mar 2011

Well, we are house sitting this weekend so I won't be home much to "play"
Next week I'll really try and get a handle on this. Thanks for the input.
Got it working without the mouse (holding down 1 while booting per the
manual) And yes.... I can see were a mouse is MUCH needed! Now I just need a
TV in my "studio"  lol

I'll try to get some shot's of my gear and post them soon.
Peace.

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 Today's Topics:

   1. RE: floppy drive emulator? (CoolColJ)
   2. Some luck (Robbie Dude)
   3. RE: Some luck (CoolColJ)
   4. Re: Some luck (Colin Shapiro)
   5. Re: Some luck (Bruce Tovsky)
   6. Re: My Roland S-550 song - oops, the link... (Photosynthesi)

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 Message: 1
 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:06:04 +1100
 From: "CoolColJ" &lt;coolcolj(a)optusnet.com.au&gt;
 Subject: RE: [sgroup] floppy drive emulator?
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 That won't work, since they just emulate a PC floppy

 this will work though

 http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/

 -----Original Message-----
 From: sgroup-bounces+coolcolj=optusnet.com.au(a)sgroup.ca
 [mailto:sgroup-bounces+coolcolj=optusnet.com.au@sgroup.ca] On Behalf Of
 Steven Vermeij
 Sent: Thursday, 10 March 2011 10:15 PM
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 Subject: [sgroup] floppy drive emulator?

 Hi guys,

 I found this on ebay,

 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/720kb-2DD-Floppy-Emulator-Roland-Yamaha-PSR-KORG-/1705
 78260293

 Does anybody of you know whether this will work in the s330/ s550 samplers?

 Steven

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 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:08:51 -0800
 From: Robbie Dude &lt;robbieaoa(a)gmail.com&gt;
 Subject: [sgroup] Some luck
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 Ok, went out and got some new media. Put it into my XP box ran the sdiskw
 prog and loaded up some system software on it. Got a monitor and hooked
 that
 up as well. Fired it up, popped in the disk and it seems to be working.
 Now... if I can just figure out how to sample on the thing. Looking at the
 manual it's in the utility section  (utility button) question... will I
 have
 to load up the utility disk to do this? (I'm thinking yes) Also, it's not
 seeing any of my samples disks I have for the S-50. I woulds assume I have
 to use the convert function first. Will this convert the disk? or will it
 just copy it over to a new disk?

 Also, seems like it wants to use the mouse. Thought I saw in the manual
 that
 I can switch that off. (looking around right now for a mouse on the web)

 So it looks like I'm taking baby steps here. But... hopefully I'll be
 walking soon.. then running.

 Thanks for your help.
 Rob

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 Message: 3
 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:16:55 +1100
 From: "CoolColJ" &lt;coolcolj(a)optusnet.com.au&gt;
 Subject: RE: [sgroup] Some luck
 To: &lt;sgroup(a)sgroup.ca&gt;
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 The OS and sample utilities reside on the same disk
 Although it's been a while since I used an S-50, just assuming it's like
 the
 S-550

 There should be a way to turn off the mouse function when you turn on the
 unit, by holding a combo of keys as you power on.
 I don't remember what they are now.
 You will need a monitor though, it'll help a whole bunch! Anything with a
 composite input will do, an old TV through a VHS recorder
 or modern LCD TV with such an input, a PC TV card also works

 Any MSX mouse should work as stated a few days ago here, a few on EBay
 right
 now

 -----Original Message-----
 From: sgroup-bounces+coolcolj=optusnet.com.au(a)sgroup.ca
 [mailto:sgroup-bounces+coolcolj=optusnet.com.au@sgroup.ca] On Behalf Of
 Robbie Dude
 Sent: Saturday, 12 March 2011 12:09 PM
 To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
 Subject: [sgroup] Some luck

 Ok, went out and got some new media. Put it into my XP box ran the sdiskw
 prog and loaded up some system software on it. Got a monitor and hooked
 that
 up as well. Fired it up, popped in the disk and it seems to be working.
 Now... if I can just figure out how to sample on the thing. Looking at the
 manual it's in the utility section  (utility button) question... will I
 have
 to load up the utility disk to do this? (I'm thinking yes) Also, it's not
 seeing any of my samples disks I have for the S-50. I woulds assume I have
 to use the convert function first. Will this convert the disk? or will it
 just copy it over to a new disk?

 Also, seems like it wants to use the mouse. Thought I saw in the manual
 that
 I can switch that off. (looking around right now for a mouse on the web)

 So it looks like I'm taking baby steps here. But... hopefully I'll be
 walking soon.. then running.

 Thanks for your help.
 Rob
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 Message: 4
 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:00:58 +0200
 From: Colin Shapiro &lt;musos(a)icon.co.za&gt;
 Subject: Re: [sgroup] Some luck
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 Hi Rob,

 If I recall correctly, you have the S-550.
 You should fetch the owner's manual here:
 http://media.rolandus.com/manuals/S-550_OM.pdf

 It will explain the whole sampling procedure as well as how to convert S50
 disks for use in the S550.

 Much easier and more thorough than a long e-mail here....

 Regards
 Colin
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 On Mar 12, 2011, at 3:08, Robbie Dude wrote:

  Ok, went out and got some new media. Put it into
my XP box ran the sdiskw
 prog and loaded up some system software on it. Got a monitor and hooked  that
  up as well. Fired it up, popped in the disk and
it seems to be working.
 Now... if I can just figure out how to sample on the thing. Looking at  the
  manual it's in the utility section  (utility
button) question... will I  have
  to load up the utility disk to do this? (I'm
thinking yes) Also, it's not
 seeing any of my samples disks I have for the S-50. I woulds assume I  have
  to use the convert function first. Will this
convert the disk? or will it
 just copy it over to a new disk?

 Also, seems like it wants to use the mouse. Thought I saw in the manual  that
  I can switch that off. (looking around right now
for a mouse on the web)

 So it looks like I'm taking baby steps here. But... hopefully I'll be
 walking soon.. then running.

 Thanks for your help.
 Rob 

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 Message: 5
 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:03:33 -0500
 From: Bruce Tovsky &lt;bruce(a)skeletonhome.com&gt;
 Subject: Re: [sgroup] Some luck
 To: sgroup sgroup &lt;sgroup(a)sgroup.ca&gt;
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 a couple of old roland sampling tips: after a lot of testing, i ended up
 not using the s550 sampling function that much. i got much better results
 sampling at a higher rate in an external app (lots of options for free out
 there) and downsampling and transferring the sample to the s550. (not as
 easy to do now, but still possible. i believe stefano daino still has
 dsp-quattro going on the mac that handles roland samples.) there's a well
 know trick to maximizing your sample memory: since the roland system breaks
 the samples into chunks of memory, to most efficiently use the memory you
 can chain samples together to fill the chunk and then use sample pointers to
 access the individual samples. i know this sounds confusing - i'm not
 explaining it well and it's been about 15 years since i last did it - but
 think of it like this: you've got 20 samples of a piano, instead of twenty
 different samples you have one long sample with twenty notes strung together
 one after the other. the rol
  and allows you to use sample start and end pointers when you're mapping,
 so you can "point" the notemap to just that section of the sample. if you
 read the manual you'll see the memory allocation limitations i mentioned. i
 was able to significantly increase my sample set using this trick.
 cheers
 b

 On Mar 11, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Robbie Dude wrote:

  Ok, went out and got some new media. Put it into
my XP box ran the sdiskw
 prog and loaded up some system software on it. Got a monitor and hooked  that
  up as well. Fired it up, popped in the disk and
it seems to be working.
 Now... if I can just figure out how to sample on the thing. Looking at  the
  manual it's in the utility section  (utility
button) question... will I  have
  to load up the utility disk to do this? (I'm
thinking yes) Also, it's not
 seeing any of my samples disks I have for the S-50. I woulds assume I  have
  to use the convert function first. Will this
convert the disk? or will it
 just copy it over to a new disk?

 Also, seems like it wants to use the mouse. Thought I saw in the manual  that
  I can switch that off. (looking around right now
for a mouse on the web)

 So it looks like I'm taking baby steps here. But... hopefully I'll be
 walking soon.. then running.

 Thanks for your help.
 Rob  > _______________________________________________
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 Message: 6
 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:43:34 +0000 (GMT)
 From: Photosynthesi &lt;photosynthesi(a)yahoo.it&gt;
 Subject: Re: [sgroup] My Roland S-550 song - oops, the link...
 To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
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 Heh he, well, thanks for the comparision with Depeche (i love'em).
 Actually, the melody is taken from an euro hit of the nineties titled
 "Hablame
 luna" by Basic Connection.

 I hope this list will continue to be so active...

 Bye :)

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 A: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
 Inviato: Ven 11 marzo 2011, 00:26:56
 Oggetto: Re: [sgroup] My Roland S-550 song - oops, the link...

 Nicely done. Cross of Depeche with Scitti Politti I thought

 I listened to it all the way through and with Florence and The Machine
 cued up thats saying something!!  : )

 M

 ps great to see some list activity, I have four S760's going back into
 my rig very soon as soon as I can figure out all this SCSI ID mess.

 On Mar 10, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Photosynthesi wrote:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvqR5-14ELs

 --- Gio 10/3/11, Photosynthesi &lt;photosynthesi(a)yahoo.it&gt; ha scritto:

  Da: Photosynthesi &lt;photosynthesi(a)yahoo.it&gt;
 Oggetto: [sgroup] My Roland S-550 song
 A: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
 Data: Giovedě 10 marzo 2011, 10:50
 Hello all.
 I bought my Roland S-550 in 2008 on Ebay.
 Now I'd like to share with you a track I made in a few
 minutes using this sampler a few days ago.
 All patches and samples are from the S-50 system disk n.
 56
 "Techno Set" (i converted it to a s550 diskette usig the
 convert function on the sampler).
 The S-550 has been sequenced via MIDI by FL Studio.
 It's a direct recording from the output of the sampler.
 No effects have been used.
 I had fun playing a hit of the nineties using sounds of
 the
 eighties.
 Try to guess the song title :)

 Please, leave your comments!
 Bye!

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