At 03:30 AM 4/16/2010, you wrote: Strangely the MV is more the successor, structurally speaking, to the S-7x/XV-5080 then the Fantom is. The big problem with the Fantom (and Juno-G) is that you have no pitch, volume, or pan control on the SAMPLE level. You have the ability to form a "Multisample", which is just a series of samples mapped out horizontally across 128 MIDI notes. A Patch has 4 "Tones", and a Multisample can be assigned to that Tone and that Tone gives it any pitch, volume, and pan properties - and any property, for that matter. Contrast that to the S-7x model, which you have 88 MIDI Notes that can have their own set of envelopes, LFO's, Filters, shared by up to 4 (albeit mono) samples, but at least each sample reference has it's own pitch, volume, and pan - AND velocity range. Although the Fantom and S-7x only can have 4 velocity splits maximum, the way the S-7x does it is more versatile with the other parameters. Although you may have more flexibility using the Fantom/Juno Rhythm Kits, it seems kludgy to use a structure designed for percussion to simulate chromatic instruments. We can all agree that software eclipsed hardware for price and convenience reasons, it's also true that hardware stagnated feature-wise. Why have we never seen a non-PC-based disk-streaming structure-unlimited hardware sampler, even before software made it's mark? Right now the open-system things on the Motif/Fusion/Triton/M3/Fantom (and Kurzweil) are things to compliment it's already appealing internally voiced ROM sets, so I'm not complaining. What I'd like to see would be 1) Sample Instrument remote control from a computer (via USB or Ethernet) and 2) unlimited structures and not this "only 4 samples per key" and basic control not on the sample level stuff. Garth Hjelte Sampler User