5 Jul
2005
5 Jul
'05
10:21 a.m.
hi, i would like your advice...
how do i get all my s760 samples which are all on floppy discs off
there and onto a mac?
kontakt now recognizes roland files, so i dont need to convert them,
just get them off the dics? there are many...
for some reason i cant get the laptop- a black g4 running os9, to
recognize the drives? am i using the wrong scsi cables? is there some
driver im missing? etc etc...
any advice you can offer would be appreciated.
ben
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8 Jul
8 Jul
6:54 a.m.
hi, i would like your advice...
how do i get all my s760 samples which are all on floppy discs off
there and onto a mac?
kontakt now recognizes roland files, so i dont need to convert them,
just get them off the dics? there are many...
for some reason i cant get the laptop- a black g4 running os9, to
recognize the drives? am i using the wrong scsi cables? is there
some driver im missing? etc etc...
There are several issues here:
The S760 disks have their own unique format and will not simply be
recognised by a Mac.
Test: does the drive you are using work if you insert a PC or Mac
formatted disk?
Once the drive can be seen to be working with "normal" disks, you
need a program which will recognise the Roland-format disks. For OS9,
your could try SMac. I think there is a version which works with
S760/1.4 Mb disks. However, this converts the samples to aiff files
which is probably not what you want.
I just tried using CDXtract and Translator in OSX (both are
conversion apps) but neither of them recognise the disk content. I
have however had success with CDXtract and Zip disks. Your option
therefore could be to find a SCSI Zip drive, re-save all your S760
stuff onto Zip disks, then hook the Zip drive to your Mac and get the
stuff off there via CDXtract.
Life, data and progress are not an easy mix.......
Regards - Colin
12:10 p.m.
Am Freitag, 08.07.05 um 12:54 Uhr schrieb Colin Shapiro:
For OS9, your could try SMac. I think there is a
version which works
with S760/1.4 Mb disks. However, this converts the samples to aiff
files which is probably not what you want.
There's a version of SMAC that can convert to AIFF? I've never seen
this. All versions I know only create disk image files of Roland disks,
and Roland disks from disk images.
DSoundPro can create sound files, I forget which format.
Ingo
6:30 p.m.
Ingo wrote:
There's a version of SMAC that can convert to
AIFF? I've never seen
this. All versions I know only create disk image files of Roland
disks, and Roland disks from disk images.
Yes. It's called <SAM_2_tone>
It was part of the set of SMac apps I downloaded years ago. (It's
over 13 years old!!!)
It converts to AIFF, SDI, SDII, Apple .snd and even WAV
I remember that there were problems with the sampling rate being
lower than most apps like, but this is easily fixed in Logic etc.
Regards - Colin
9 Aug
9 Aug
11:11 a.m.
At 12:54 PM 7/8/2005 +0200, you wrote:
>hi, i would like your advice...
>how do i get all my s760 samples which are all on floppy discs off
>there and onto a mac?
>kontakt now recognizes roland files, so i dont need to convert them,
>just get them off the dics? there are many...
>for some reason i cant get the laptop- a black g4 running os9, to
>recognize the drives? am i using the wrong scsi cables? is there
>some driver im missing? etc etc...
Mac's just won't properly deal with floppy disks. The only things close to
working that I've seen are:
1) Using a USB Floppy and for some reason Kontakt 2 (or Translator or CDX)
will see that as a drive. Most of the time this does not happen.
2) Does SMac allow creating an image? If so, make one, and then put that
image file (give it a .img, .nrg, .iso, .dmg, or .toast extension) in a
folder called Images in the Native Instruments folder in Application
Support in Library. Kontakt 2 may see it then. If not, please email me the
image at this email at support(a)chickensys.com.
Why don't you find a PC somewhere (they are everywhere), and use the SDisk
utility to make images of your S-7x floppies, move them to the Mac, and put
them in the Images folder as described above? Most libraries have PC's
available. You can download SDisk from www.rolandsamplers.org - the
Download area. Download the Win98 boot disk for it, since SDisk does not
run in XP, you need to boot up with the boot floppy to get things to work.
I wrote the conversion routines in Kontakt 2 and deliberately included
support for all types of Roland S-50/550/7x formats, including floppy
images. If you find ones that don't work or exhibit problems, let me know.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
11:24 a.m.
New subject: Chickensys, Roland S7XX samplers and wav files
So has Chickensys added support to convert wav. files to Roland S7XX format?
Jesse
2 p.m.
i think stefano daino's program dsp-quattro still
supports roland conversions if i'm not mistaken.
i haven't looked at it in years, but i know he still
updates it - in fact it's gotten some good reviews
as an inexpensive mac audio editor app. might be
worth checking out. i used the earlier version of it
(os 9) called d-sound-pro and it worked fine for
transfers from my s550.
cheers
bruce
On Aug 9, 2005, at 11:11 AM, Garth Hjelte wrote:
At 12:54 PM 7/8/2005 +0200, you wrote:
bruce tovsky
www.skeletonhome.com
"Reality is whatever refuses to go away when I stop believing in it.."
Philip K. Dick
>hi, i would like your advice...
>how do i get all my s760 samples which are all on floppy discs off
>there and onto a mac?
>kontakt now recognizes roland files, so i dont need to convert them,
>just get them off the dics? there are many...
>for some reason i cant get the laptop- a black g4 running os9, to
>recognize the drives? am i using the wrong scsi cables? is there
>some driver im missing? etc etc...
Mac's just won't properly deal with floppy disks. The only things
close to working that I've seen are:
1) Using a USB Floppy and for some reason Kontakt 2 (or Translator or
CDX) will see that as a drive. Most of the time this does not happen.
2) Does SMac allow creating an image? If so, make one, and then put
that image file (give it a .img, .nrg, .iso, .dmg, or .toast
extension) in a folder called Images in the Native Instruments folder
in Application Support in Library. Kontakt 2 may see it then. If not,
please email me the image at this email at support(a)chickensys.com.
Why don't you find a PC somewhere (they are everywhere), and use the
SDisk utility to make images of your S-7x floppies, move them to the
Mac, and put them in the Images folder as described above? Most
libraries have PC's available. You can download SDisk from
www.rolandsamplers.org - the Download area. Download the Win98 boot
disk for it, since SDisk does not run in XP, you need to boot up with
the boot floppy to get things to work.
I wrote the conversion routines in Kontakt 2 and deliberately included
support for all types of Roland S-50/550/7x formats, including floppy
images. If you find ones that don't work or exhibit problems, let me
know.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
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4:36 p.m.
Garth wrote:
2) Does SMac allow creating an image?
Yes. You can use <Roland_2_SAM>
There are some restrictions....
I just tried it on my G5 under Classic, and it won't work with my
Imation Superdrive. (My link to the past)
I have all the necessary extensions - could be a problem with OSX and
720k disks.
So, I tried on my Powerbook running OS9.1 and it works just fine (as always).
If so, make one, and then put that image file (give it
a .img, .nrg,
.iso, .dmg, or .toast extension) in a folder called Images in the
Native Instruments folder in Application Support in Library. Kontakt
2 may see it then.
I tried this (I only the the demo of Kontakt 2) and can't load.
Import does not work on the demo.
I wrote the conversion routines in Kontakt 2 and
deliberately
included support for all types of Roland S-50/550/7x formats,
including floppy images. If you find ones that don't work or exhibit
problems, let me know.
I'll e-mail you a file privately...
Regards - Colin
10:08 p.m.
At 10:36 PM 8/9/2005 +0200, you wrote:
Thanks, it works, here's what you do: just add a ".out" extension to the
file name. K2's browser will then see it. Dragging the file simply loads
the first Patch located in the image, from there you can resave it. Using
the IMPORT button enables you to create all the K2 files for later loading.
The .out comes from the SDisk stuff, which is more common. Colin, what is
the file typing (creator code and file type) of these files on a Mac? I can
add that to the next KConvert version so the .out isn't necessary to add.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
2) Does SMac
allow creating an image?
Yes. You can use <Roland_2_SAM>
There are some restrictions....
I just tried it on my G5 under Classic, and it won't work with my
Imation Superdrive. (My link to the past)
I have all the necessary extensions - could be a problem with OSX and
720k disks.
So, I tried on my Powerbook running OS9.1 and it works just fine (as always).
If so, make one, and then put that image file
(give it a .img, .nrg,
.iso, .dmg, or .toast extension) in a folder called Images in the
Native Instruments folder in Application Support in Library. Kontakt
2 may see it then.
I tried this (I only the the demo of Kontakt 2) and can't load.
Import does not work on the demo.
I wrote the conversion routines in Kontakt 2 and
deliberately
included support for all types of Roland S-50/550/7x formats,
including floppy images. If you find ones that don't work or exhibit
problems, let me know.
I'll e-mail you a file privately...
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