Hello. I accidentally formatted my floppy disk with the factory samples of
the Roland S550. I would like to have them back. Where can I download to
record to the floppy again.
Thank you in advance
Mateus S. Carpenter
Greeting to one & all,,
I am simply thrilled to have found this URL once again since the last
century. I still have my original 1987 S50. 'She's been in her flightcase
for too long. Now I have a Gotec emulator & need to learn how to get it to
work w/ the s50. I know a lot about PCs, ok a little more than most. I
don;t have a floppy disk in my Win 7.1 Pro server. BUMMER i know for this
attempt. I do have a USB floppy drive and 100's of disks for both my S50 &
Korg I 30. Now to take a break, rest my weary eyes & then go read
what'shere online. If nothing else, using the S 50 should take me back to
my younger days. LOL
At 70 i am afraid i am not as quick a learner as i once was. At least i
am going to try.
Funny, or is it, I have a Yamaha MU-128 & 3 Emu rack mounts that i hardly
use--I wonder why I'm spending the time & $ to retrofit my S50. ??
well i guess it will keep me off the streets at night. ;)
Take care & God bless,
Don
Greetings from Florida, I'd like to give a shoutout to all my fellow members yet, I've forgotten where the URL is to login.I hope & pray all are SAFE & still keeping the MUSIC--LIVE.Sincerely, Don & Kelly II.If i may share: I'm trying to make a comeback during my current fight w/ complecations from Stage 4 throat cancer. No excuses nor sympathy am i looking for-just a little shots of confidence which are very hard to come by of late. Thanks--please, if anyone is able to read this-don't hesitate to reach out to me & please videw my 4 videos on U-tube. Thanks & God Bless you.
Hi all,
Relative newcomer to S-series samplers, since I've only had mine for about 10 years. But I'm wondering if someboy out there has any tips on the following...
Sometimes I really like the way a sample sounds when I play it back inside the Loop&Smoothing view... but then when I put the same sample in a Performance, Patch, and Partial, it plays back totally different.
Does anybody have any tips on how I could set up a performance, patch, or partial to play back a sample as similar to Loop&Smoothing playback as possible?
Some of the parameters I'm thinking would probably come into play are: Original Key, Attack/Decay/Sustain/Release, the filter, One-Shot / mono / poly, Tuning...and then knowing at which level (patch/partial/performance) these would best be set at...
Thanks
Tim
Hi
misplaced my dongle
anyone with dongle free ver
(the s550 and s330 ones are easy to find)
or can anyone crack the sys503 one?
Thanks and blessings
Andre Q
At 02:02 AM 3/21/2017, you wrote:
>Has anybody been successful in importing the S-770 OUT. files on this page into Native Instrumentsâ KONTAKT?
Yep! I did it.
>NI's website says, regarding hardware formats,
>"Only image files supported. Please put these image files into the image folder."
>When they say an 'image file', doesn't it mean an .OUT file?
Yes; the reason it uses the generic term "image" is because often these can have different extensions based on the whim of the person using SDISK (the program that made these). And actually the NI page says .out (to the right).
I should mention I know this because I wrote the code that Kontakt uses, and mostly wrote that web page. I am the point person for any issues regarding this, let me know if there is something you don't understand or need quesitons answered.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
Hi
My disks are really struggling to read now and I cannot contact the
friend who had one. Its hard to get these disks now
Can you please send me this system disk ?
I would prefer the ver 1 sequencer format (Director S )but anything will
be great
thanks and blessings
Address: A Quimpo
33 Kronendal road
Westridge
Mitchells Plain
Cape town
South Africa
How many Roland sampler users are still on this group? For those who may
not know me I'm Jesse Segovia and I play lead guitar and sing in a classic
rock band, and I write and record my own stuff in my home studio. I own
both a Roland S-760 and S-550. My Main DAW is Cakewalk Sonar. I have one
of those Focusrite Saffire audio/MIDI interfaces.
To tell you where I am with my Roland samplers, I bought a Yamaha MOXF8
synth a few years ago. It has most of the library of the Motif and it's
expandable - you can load samples in the correct format into its internal
memory. It sounds very good but I just found out how much I still need my
Roland samplers and sample library. The MOXF8 has a Yamaha CP-80 patch that
I through was pretty good but last week I was going through some of my
Roland sample library sounds. I loaded up one of the CP-70 patches from the
Roland Keyboards of the 60's and 70's and wow, there was no comparison. The
Roland patch completely blew away the Yamaha keyboard sound. It wasn't even
close. If I recorded a song with the Yamaha electric grand sound I would be
very disappointed to later on find out how good the Roland sample was.
I guess some of us have gone to software samplers but for me, at least for
now, I'm sticking with my Roland samplers and I'm very happy to do that.
Jesse
Does anyone have these samples they could upload like those from the RSB disks? It's just not that practical to have a separate Syquest drive player these days.
-Andrew
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There was a document somewhere that had information about debug terminal mode in S-50 that could be used through midi. It was accessed by pressing "0" while booting, and there were commands to at least write and read bytes from memory, but I can't seem to find it anymore. Does anyone have it saved?
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I'd mentioned on the SGroup several days ago that Chicken Systems Translator 6 www.chickensys.com now can write Roland .OUT files (this can be DS/DD and DS/HD on Mac to USB Floppy Drives. (On Windows it's just a regular thing.)
I put this on Translator and Translator Free. They are not the public versions, but will appear in v6.1. If anyone is interested, contact me off-list and I'll give instructions how to get the build right away.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
At 04:46 PM 9/29/2015, you wrote:
>Yes! That's so awesome! Thanks for posting this Garth. I'll email you directly with more info, but wanted to publicly say that this rules.
It's definitely fun to do. I got it done, loaded it in my S550, works perfect. Unusual because I'm so used to using a XP computer for floppy things. Nice to use a Mac for once.
>On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Garth Hjelte <<mailto:garth@chickensys.com>garth(a)chickensys.com> wrote:
>At 05:30 PM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
>
>I read with interest on this thread, and I got Translator and Translator Free <http://www.chickensys.com>www.chickensys.com running where you can write S5x floppy images (usually .OUT files) to DS/DD floppies using a USB floppy drive on a Mac. Fortunately this works because the Roland is a 9-sector geometric format, just like a MS-DOS disk. (If it were a 10-sector one like Akai or Ensoniq or Emu, it'd be different.) But of course it's not a MS-DOS file system so that's where Translator comes in.
>
>It's not public yet, but it's done, so if the OP is interested, or anyone else, please email privately and I'll give details and link info.
>
>For a screen shot on what this sort of looks like, see:
>
><http://www.chickensys.com/_images/s5xfloppy.png>www.chickensys.com/_images/s5xfloppy.png
>
>Also, using the USB floppy of mine, which is nothing special, it works just fine in Yosemite. OSX formats a DS/DD floppy as well as a DS/HD - just go into Disk Utility and Erase to MS-DOS (FAT) format. AFAIK these things never need "drivers" or anything so I'm a little confused what you guys were talking about.
>
>>I used to use CDXtract to convert S550 and S760 sounds to EXS24 format to use in Logic. (I also have many disks for both machines.) If I ever want to use CDXtract, I still have it available on my old G4 or on an alternative OS boot drive (10.6). The conversions are very good. There's also Translator for conversions.
>
>Just to note, CDx does NOT support S5x, only S7x. (Perhaps you were using the Convert Load S5x images that you converted into S7x images.) Translator has a very advanced S5x convertor to other formats, does the job very, very well. It also is a modern program that runs on Yosemite and even El Capitan, as well as Windows 10 down to XP. (And it runs as low was Tiger OSX 10.4 and PPC machines.
>
>We are also working on a ->S5x conversion routine, it's not done because - well, it's an old format, and people aren't threatening us with death on getting it (as opposed to other more modern needs). If you are all desperate for it, threaten us with death or torture and maybe we'll hurry it up. =)
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
Back again...
I noticed from a further post that you're running Yosemite.
It's highly unlikely that you'll find a drive that has up to date drivers for any newer Mac OS than 10.6
I have an old Imation Superdrive which used to work under OS 10.6 but there are no longer drivers for it, and the Mac doesn't even see the drive anymore. I've kept a "legacy" G4 that runs OS 10.2 and even OS9, simply to be able to read and write (and convert) floppies and run old programs that could read Roland format disks.
Do you perhaps have an old computer lying around gathering dust? That may be the answer....or a friend that still has an old Mac.
Regards - Colin
On 28Sep, 2015, at 12:11, Colin Shapiro <musos(a)mac.com> wrote:
> Hi Duncan,
>
> I'm replying to your original post, mainly to ask some questions.
>
> First and most important, what OS are you running on the Mac?
> Next, what disk drive did you get?
> What type of connection does it have to your Mac?
>
> The DD 720K disks you have are perfect for the S550, but they must be formatted in MS-DOS format to work on the S550.
>
> The problem is that the Mac most likely will not even see the drive, let alone the disks.
>
> I'll wait for your answers before continuing...
>
> Regards
> Colin
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> On 28Sep, 2015, at 0:35, Duncan Malashock <duncanmalashock(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sgroup,
>>
>> How's it going? First time posting to the group, so thanks for having me.
>>
>> I recently purchased an S-550 and love the sound. I'm mostly interested in
>> using those great samples that I'm sure you've all heard in the Sunday Paper
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-_YmUmAMwU> demo. I'm hoping that the
>> seasoned experts among you may be able to help me make that a reality.
>>
>> My unit came with two system disks, and it seemed like only one of them
>> loaded completely. Through doing program changes I was able to get a couple
>> samples working (one of a string section and one of an orchestra hit). I'm
>> finding it very difficult to see what samples are available through the
>> front panel. I had hoped the Sunday Paper samples were pre-installed, but
>> it seemed trying to load the samples I was after was going to take more
>> work.
>>
>> So my next step was to try to write disk images to floppies to use in the
>> S-500. I tracked down 10 DD 720K disks (old stock, not the new ones which
>> I've heard are unreliable), and the RSB sample library in .OUT format
>> <http://llamamusic.com/s50s550/unusual_samples.html>. I'm on a Macbook Pro
>> running OS X Yosemite, so SMAC doesn't seem like a possibility, and the
>> Sabrent USB floppy drive I bought doesn't seem to read the DD disks. So
>> right now I'm stuck.
>>
>> Thanks for reading this far. Can anyone help me find a way to write these
>> disk images to the floppies using my Mac? Many thanks for any help.
>>
>> All best,
>> Duncan
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Hi Sgroup,
How's it going? First time posting to the group, so thanks for having me.
I recently purchased an S-550 and love the sound. I'm mostly interested in
using those great samples that I'm sure you've all heard in the Sunday Paper
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-_YmUmAMwU> demo. I'm hoping that the
seasoned experts among you may be able to help me make that a reality.
My unit came with two system disks, and it seemed like only one of them
loaded completely. Through doing program changes I was able to get a couple
samples working (one of a string section and one of an orchestra hit). I'm
finding it very difficult to see what samples are available through the
front panel. I had hoped the Sunday Paper samples were pre-installed, but
it seemed trying to load the samples I was after was going to take more
work.
So my next step was to try to write disk images to floppies to use in the
S-500. I tracked down 10 DD 720K disks (old stock, not the new ones which
I've heard are unreliable), and the RSB sample library in .OUT format
<http://llamamusic.com/s50s550/unusual_samples.html>. I'm on a Macbook Pro
running OS X Yosemite, so SMAC doesn't seem like a possibility, and the
Sabrent USB floppy drive I bought doesn't seem to read the DD disks. So
right now I'm stuck.
Thanks for reading this far. Can anyone help me find a way to write these
disk images to the floppies using my Mac? Many thanks for any help.
All best,
Duncan
Hello everyone.
I'm archiving my Roland S-330 samples. I'm using the *s550util* that Peter
Heitzer developed. For those that don't know, this is a utility that runs
on Linux at the command line. You can use the linux 'dd' command to create
an image (.img) of a 3.5 floppy disk. Here is a link to Peter's software
for those interested:
http://homepages.uni-regensburg.de/~hep09515/keyboards/download/s550util.tar
I have extracted the same tone in raw mode (-r) and with the default. They
are different files, but I don't know what the difference is. Perhaps
someone here knows the difference? What purpose does the raw mode serve?
s550util v. 1.01 (Jul 26 2015) (c) 2004-2006 Peter Heitzer
Usage: s550util -h|-l <file>|[-r] -{x|X} <file> [s1 .. sn]
-h: show help
-r: raw mode, ignore tone start and end points
-l <file>: show info for image <file>
-x <file> <s1> .. <sn> extract samples s1 .. sn
-X <file> : as -x but overwrite files
Sample numbers are in Roland notation, e.g. 11 for first sample.
A range of sample numbers can be given as <first>-<last>, e.g. 14-16. Only
original tones can be extracted.
Thanks in advance!
David A. Roth
Hi ev'rybody.
I'm thinking of sellling my 550...I have a ton of floppies with all kinds
of stuff on them, also the original sounds (maybe one or two floppies
missing?) in boxes, labeled; I could probably dig up the manual
also...anyway, any ideas on what it's worth? Or does anybody want to make
me an offer? Is there life after birth? :)
I'm not locked into a sale yet, just wanted to test the waters.
Cheers,
diana b
My apologies, I'm not in favor of commercial spams but I hope you'll make an exception. I never do this but I thought it'd be appropriate this one time since it's Roland-based and very beneficial.
Also I'm never exactly sure how many people know about our products and what they do for Roland samplers. Also, we posted a similar thing on some other lists today.
I assume you are using a S7x-type sampler, although I know there are other Roland-type users here.
We are doing one of our "holiday 50% off software sales" and Translator and Constructor are part of this.
Translator is an instrument convertor and can convert any professional instrument format (Kontakt, EXS24, Giga, SoundFont, etc.) into Roland S7x format. You convert create new S7x Patches and write them directly to Roland disk. This expands your sample library by a huge amount - get ANYTHING into your S7x, flawlessly and easily.
Constructor differs from Translator in that Translator converts already-created instruments, while Constructor "gets in the middle" and handles the individual sample references in process, THEN you save into any format including Roland. Constructor can load formed-Instruments but you can add and delete from them at your leisure, plus edit the key/vel ranges, loop points, and any other parameter.
These programs now have an AutoSampler at no extra charge. There are a lot of software/hardware sample libraries that are encrypted or just unavailable for conversion. The AutoSampler makes it easy to fire up that plugin or hardware piece do some setup, and hit RECORD. Let it sample and AutoSampler composes a fully-mapped S7x Patch for you.
You can also audition ANY sampled instrument (S7x or not) directly from disk; hit LOAD and you can play it from your MIDI keyboard without loading it into the S7x itself.
Translator also allows you to rename any Roland S7x object on disk, and delete objects as well - while updating the other objects on disk.
Both Translator and Constructor are Mac and Windows - cross-platform - and work with the latest operating systems (Win 8 down to WinXP, OSX Mavericks down to 10.4 Tiger - even PPC works). They are still being fully supported via email, phone, chat, and forum.
This Labor Day weekend we are again putting [most] of our software up for 50% sale. This is a great time to indulge yourself and improve your Roland experience. Translator or Constructor - the Pro versions - are MSRP $150, but on sale they are just $75 each. Or even better, you can get the Translator Roland Edition (deals with only Roland), which is normally $80 - get it for just $40.
This sale starts on Friday August 29 and ends after Labor Day Sept 1. Go to www.samplerzone.com/catalog for the sale, and www.chickensys.com for more information.
Again, I apologize for the commercial spam, but I'm guessing that perhaps there's people here that don't know this is available and I just wanted to take the time to bring it out, especially now that there's a sale coming.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
Last thing, stupid thing... I'm on vacation right now, driving, and the two highways we took yesterday were US 50 and US 550. Take out the U and you get S50 and S550. Cool.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
At 02:21 PM 8/14/2014, you wrote:
>AH, that makes sense, so my optimism is draining away :) The USB
>floppy I have is older, not a mac model, but I could see it still not
>being able to do that.
Oh, okay, this is why it won't work. dd works with Unix/Linux, sure. But all things only work with an internal floppy drive, for the reasons stated in www.samplerzone.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3251 The problem with Mac's is not that it won't run dd, it's because no Mac's that run OSX have a internal floppy drive (that is, a controller on the mobo or on a card slot).
Again, if you are into old gear, having an old computer around is the best way to provide a gateway to them. Using your newer computers is putting a square peg in a round hole. For me, I have a Pent 4 running XP SP3 with an internal floppy drive. Nice because I can use several Windows floppy accesses, but if I have to get really down and dirty I just run DOS 7.0 and go to town.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
At 01:38 PM 8/14/2014, you wrote:
>> I was talking abut proprietary floppies, not regular ones.
>
>There are two things here:
>
>1) software: proprietary format on disk (i.e. not FAT32, NTFS, etc)
>2) hardware: proprietary disk format (i.e. quickdisk instead of "standard")
>
>#1 is just a stream of bits, which is what dd excels at. #2 wouldn't
>be any easier on a Windows box, I'm not aware of windows attached
>QuickDisk drives for example.
See this for a fuller explanation: www.samplerzone.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3251
>If it works on Linux, I would be shocked if it didn't work on Mac,
>because underneath macOS on the command line, you have a full Unix
>system, very much like Linux other than the kernel, which isn't really
>relevant to a floppy drive device.
I'd hope so... but I believe what Apple puts forward lines up to what they want, and my feeling is that "dd" is not working or not included. Otherwise that would be a solution to many problems that have lasted years. Since it hasn't been solved, I assume dd has been tried and found wanting. But I'm optimistic, but real at the same time. Let get it tested first.
I think Gordon here (Linux only man) knows the right parameters. I think with all the Akai, Roland, Emu, Ensoniq, it's all 10 sector stuff instead of 9 sector.
>I look forward to hearing the results. I could write the data (I have
>a mac and a USB floppy) but I have no way to verify that it's
>right....
Why don't you take a S5x floppy, read it using dd, then write it using dd, and see if your S5x reads it still? That's essentially what I will do when I get back.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
At 09:46 AM 8/14/2014, you wrote:
>USB floppies exist and can be used on Macs...
I was talking abut proprietary floppies, not regular ones.
>I would second the recommendation for dd as the tool of choice, but of course you have to
>have the device first.
I'd like to know if "dd" works. I'll test Monday, if no one else does, but I don't think it works on Mac/Unix. It does on Linux though, so I've heard.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
At 06:27 AM 8/13/2014, you wrote:
>If anyone can suggest recent software (other than SMAC which is OS9) that will help, please jump in here.
Macs and floppies don't mix; EPSm is an exception but really proves the rule.
www.samplerzone.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3251
Use a Windows computer or DOS with an internal floppy drive. This doesn't mean you have to own one, just borrow one for the use.
Translator www.chickensys.com supports extracting and importing floppy disk image files onto SCSI-sized images (though I know SCSI S5x is rare), and supports converting them out to other formats. Colin, this has been greatly enhanced as of late. Soon we will support converting into S5x. Way too late, but hey.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
Apologies if this question has been asked before but where can I find S550 sound disks L503-L509? Have the contents of these disk sets been uploaded onto the sagroup website? If so, how do I download and get those sounds onto my S750?
Thanks & regards,
Rob.
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Hi everyone,
This is my first post here.
I had the chance to buy a little stock of RC100, brand new, boxed.
These units have been safely stored in a big Music Gear shop in Italy
since the 90's. I already sold 5 units by posting on "Roland sampler
users" group on Facebook and also on another group called "Hardware
samplers users".
There you can find the nice feedbacks I've recieved,
Please note that these have no warranty, but since I own a S770 and a
S760 myself, I have the chance to test them before shipping.
The price is 100 euros plus shipping (shipping costs must be
calculated on each Country of course).
I am also dealing on some H5-IF SCSI card for the S-550.
I will keep you updated also on this, but I already accept reservations.
The price would be more or less in the 100 euros price also for these ones.
I am based in Italy, and I will ship worldwide.
Contact me for any info you would need at paolo.giangrasso(a)gmail.com.
Thanks for your attention.
My best regards
Paolo Giangrasso
> yes , some lad in italy
OK, anybody remember who? Maybe even an email adrress?
> theres also this option nowadays
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U7-IU2OffA
Thanks, but I am much more a hardware kind of guy (which is a funny
thing to say when dealing with an vintage sampler with the software on
floppy disks...).
> I seem to recall that someone was selling RC-100 units. Was it on
> this list?
Terje Winther
terje.winther(a)wintherstormer.no
http://wintherstormer.no/
Hi everyone,
After watching this video I decided I want to buy a Roland DT100 to
use with my Roland S770 and S760:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtei1cBk2mI
To be honest, I didn't find many resources about the compatibility
between the DT100 and my two samplers, but I was confident I could've
used it since I own the RC100 controller, that is necessary to use the
DT100.
Other important thing to say: my DT100 is not a "true" DT100. It is in
fact a Philips NMS1150, and I've found some sources on the net that
said that the twos are identical.
My wish was to use it as seen on the video: to draw my own waves on
the X/Y axis and then use the sampler as a sort of digital synth.
It seems like I made a big mistake: on the S770, I've found the "Wave
draw" section but it's very different from the one in the S330 shown
in the video, and try to draw a wave is very difficult. I've sampled a
silent 0.4 sec, and then work on it, but It was very hard to handle it
(wasn't able to find the "window loop" function too :( )
On the S760 I didn't even find the "wave draw" section at all (stop
laughing please).
In both cases the use of the tablet is a nightmare: it works as a
mouse but the pointer is higly unstable and I have to press to keep it
stable. To direction it is even worse...
Did any of you use the DT100 or the Philips equivalent in combo with
S770 or S760 and succeded in using it as seen on the video?
Is it possible? Or you can use it that way only with the S330 or S550?
Any help would be veeeery appreciated.
If I can't find a way to use it I will sell the tablet, so if you are
interested contact me at paolo.giangrasso(a)gmail.com
My best regards
Paolo Giangrasso
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At 01:13 PM 2/14/2014, you wrote:
>I am trying to find floppies for my old Roland S-50; alas, my old factory
>discs are all corrupted.
>In particular I would love to find the Bass Marimba sample, and the strings
>disc.
>Can anyone please point me in the right direction?
The factory sounds are on the SGroup archives, which brings me to the question I wanted to ask...
The archives go back a long way, and there are some files that are corrupted or duplicates.
CORRUPTED
---------
504_6.zip
5503_3.zip
L705_3.zip
DUPLICATE
---------
L703_4.zip (is a dupe of L703_5.zip)
Nic, if you could dig those up, that would be great.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
Hi sgroup,
I am trying to find floppies for my old Roland S-50; alas, my old factory
discs are all corrupted.
In particular I would love to find the Bass Marimba sample, and the strings
disc.
Can anyone please point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Declan Murphy
There was a program called SYX2WAV on the S-10 Manager website but the
site has been offline forever. I can't seem to find the syx2wav program
and was wondering if someone had a copy that they could email to me or upload for posterity.
At 08:35 AM 10/4/2013, you wrote:
>>I think these are all hidden from me, since the S550 can't even communicate with the drives.
>I have just reboot the S550 without the Zip and I cant go to the setup menu.
>during the boot you should see SCSI CHECK ****** after S550 initialize
I am booting from the HD5-IF floppy, which is supposed to be different. During boot, after S550 Initialize it checks the connection, and says "Harddisk Parking", nothing like SCSI Check. I assume this is a false error, since later on I constantly get errors even connecting.
Thanks.
>>> I hope it help to get S550 support in Translator
>>> I have try some transfers, the S550 see the files but the sound is distorted.
>> Are you trying to convert S550 stuff into other formats? It should work. If not, send the S550 files in question.
>No from S550 disk images to ZIP to have all the files in the same Zip disk
Place a www.chickensys.com/translator/bugreports Bug Report, this is a good time to do it.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
At 09:42 AM 10/4/2013, you wrote:
>I've noticed a distinct increase in seller misrepresentation on eBay, I have had several, though thankfully less severe, problems over the last few years... Jon E.
Thanks.
I think perhaps eBay is getting so ubiquitous and people so familiar, that people use eBay as a junk pile and start forgetting that what they send out actually has to be legit. Still, it's an expensive mistake - you have to pay for shipping back to you. This guy responded quickly and even gave me his phone number. I appreciate the honesty, but it still strikes me as weird that the unit was so problematic yet he said it was fully functional.
Regarding misrepresentation, I've noticed for years that people consistently call ZipDrives "SCSI" on eBay even if it is a parallel port version. Although it's a waste of time, I ping these ads and tell them to eliminate the word "SCSI" from their ad. But it happens ALL THE TIME. I wonder how many people, wanting a SCSI Zip, get a parallel port instead. I know I have calls for service where the person is unaware. It's the same port, DB25, but the seller should know better. Again, it's the use of eBay as a glorified Recycling Center.
>I really think it's a problem with the HD5 SCSI Interface, even though the S550 tests it successfully. Maybe the output jack is faulty. Shoot, I was looking forward to this. I got it off eBay, with a included the CD-ROM Drive, but it came and the CD-ROM Drive didn't even work, an the S550 floppy didn't even work. I think it was sent completely untested - bad form. The seller did respond to me right away after I complained, but he never shouldn't have tried to sell it like this.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
What SCSI ID is the S550 set to? The manual doesn't say. And how do you determine what SCSI ID to set your drive to? Does the S550 just look through all the ID's (except it's own, obviously) and show which it finds? (Like the S760?)
Also, does anyone use ZipDrives with their S550? I know someone who finds it successful with the W30, and I think that uses the same HD5 SCSI board.
Lastly, has anyone attempted to reverse the board and make new ones? It's a shame so many S550's don't have the board on them.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
At 12:32 AM 10/4/2013, you wrote:
>i could be wrong but im nearly sure for the s550 you need a specific scsi cd rom
>like the one here
><http://synpro.heimat.eu/s330550.htm>http://synpro.heimat.eu/s330550.htm
>i dont think common cd roms will work
Actually, most of what he lists - though it's NOT for S550, it's for S7x and later, strangely - are common CD-ROM Drives. Nevertheless, the Zip should work, I had plenty of people tell me they use a Zip. But it doesn't. I think the SCSI Interface is funky, I'm going to try some other things.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
At 05:04 AM 10/4/2013, you wrote:
>I use a Zip100 with my S550 ID SCSI is set to 5 on the Zip;the OS: CD-5 SYS 1.02
>I don't know the firmware version of my Zip (but i you need this info tell me )
It shouldn't matter these days.
>I use the menu Drive->setup and set Hard Disk ID to 5
>CD-5=off
>I the Zip go to sleep I use HD restart in Drive->Setup->Com-> HD restart
>You cant do SCSI check in Drive->Setup->Com-> SCSI Check
>The S550 (I/F) is on ID 7
I think these are all hidden from me, since the S550 can't even communicate with the drives.
>I haven't find a cd-rom drive that work but they are recognize during the boot.
We have plenty here, but I think the main problem is the SCSI interface maybe funky in some way.
>I hope it help to get S550 support in Translator
>I have try some transfers, the S550 see the files but the sound is distorted.
Are you trying to convert S550 stuff into other formats? It should work. If not, send the S550 files in question.
>I don't think you cant see the setup detail without a video monitor.
>I use an atari SC 1425 with a custom cable i have made.
Right, I'm using a monitor.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
Hello,
just saw that this USB Drive
USB FAT32 720KB SSD Floppy Drive Emulator For Machine Control
http://r.ebay.com/IzmFyK
was successfully used to replace the floppy drive in Yamaha SY99
synthesizers.
A handmade cable adapter was necessary though.
I wonder if anyone tried to use this to replace the floppy drive in a
Roland S330 or S550.
Thanks,
Franz
Hi list,
Any advice on repairing my qd drive?
The disks when inserted, i hear the drive make a constant noise but the actual qd does not get latched and i dont hear it spin, any advice to allow me to get her back up and running?
Thanks
I've noticed that finding S-500 rack units with SCSI is very difficult. Can any SCSI boards be found? If not, are there any thoughts of having one built, and if so is there anyone willing to aprt with there's for a certain period of time to get it copied?
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
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> Hello, I am trying to see if I can find a solution to converting my Roland
> S-760 SCSI to either USB or Firewire so I can connect a drive.
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> At 07:18 AM 11/28/2012, you wrote:
>
> >Hello, I am trying to see if I can find a solution to converting my
> Roland S-760 SCSI to either USB or Firewire so I can connect a drive.
>
> That's like equipping a rickshaw with a turbojet to get it to go faster. =)
>
> SCSI Drives are plentiful, just get one of those. Plenty on eBay, they go
> cheap.
>
> If you wanted to connect your drive to a computer, may I recommend using
> ZipDrives, you can use a SCSI ZipDrive for your S-760 and a USB ZipDrive
> for your computer. Try a 250mb one, that may save you some hassle.
>
> There are CF Card options, but I'm not too up on that and YMMV, "SCSI"
> card readers and the cards themselves often have compatibility issues. Once
> you get the right ones, though, you're in the clear, if you can find them.
> Stock is often an issue.
>
> Garth Hjelte
> Sampler User
>
>
>
>
I went zip with my EMU Ultra.
You can get 2 (they are pretty cheap on ebay) just one scsi and one USB or
even parallel (if you system has a parallel port on it) Then I just swap
sounds via a zip disk to the internal HD of the Ultra. (I know it's not a
Roland but same concept) I'm sure whatever PC you are using will have a USB
port. Or you can share it via a network share.
HTH
Good luck,
Rob
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Hi all!
S-330 with BMC Data Display green-screen monitor and new in box serial mouse.
Also a breadboarded converter to allow using PS2 mice, tested and works.
$200/obo + ship
Would prefer not to split bundle, but will if need be.
DIRECTOR-S SYS 333 sequencer package OS that allows s330 or s550 to
become a sequencing workstation. In all original packaging, with
dongle and manual.
Uncertain how to price SYS333, but from what I can see, they're pretty
hard to come by and radically enhance the S330s functionality.
Consensus on a fair price? If anyone can determine it absent realtime
market forces, I figure Sgroup is it.
Plenty of sauce:
http://media.rolandus.com/manuals/SYS-553_333_OM.pdfhttp://jimatwood.wordpress.com/tag/sys-333/
Thanks in advance.
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http://www.endif.org
At 12:58 PM 11/28/2012, you wrote:
>Thanks for that info. It's disappointing...
Why though? I suppose you are thinking that it gives you access to all types of USB drive methods (SSD, large capacity, etc.) but it's doubtful the S-760 would even recognize such devices. The thought that a SCSI->USB would provide interference between the two is asking a lot.
The S-760 remains in the "other" millennium. =)
>I have a micropolis drive model 3243AV, (inside an enclosure) and it seems to be having some problems. Do I need to replace this internal drive with the exact same drive or do I have options that you know of?
It doesn't have to be the same. Find a fixed SCSI drive on eBay, stay within 4GB or so, taht way you can be fairly sure you aren't getting "beyond" the S-760. Then just replace the drive.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
At 12:12 PM 11/28/2012, you wrote:
>I actually have the S-760 going to a Glyph box that contains a 270 MB syquest drive and a CD player. the connectors on the Glyph box are 50 pin SCSI while the back of the S-760 has the 25 pin connector.
Great
>I was looking at the item below and wondering whether that would work. Any idea?
When you say "would work", are you talking about attaching a USB drive to your S-760? No, this does the reverse, connects a SCSI Drive to a USB-outfitted computer.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
So I finally have a window of time to use... I replaced the belt, and
the drive appears to be working (I get proper motion), but I'm getting
"Illegal QD" errors when I go through the diagnostic routines, or if I
just put the disk in the drive.
These are NOT factory QDs. They're smith-coronas which I believe
ought to work. But they're blank.
So the question is: How do I format this disk? Can I just save to it once?
Or is this a thing where I've gotten out of alignment, and if it were
in alignment, it wouldn't give me an error, even on a blank disk?
That's really the question: do I have an alignment problem or a
formatting problem? If it's alignment, I can go twiddle with it. if
it's formatting, I think it's possibly more complicated...
Thanks
Pete
Hello group,
Thanks for the inquiries and purchases that have happened so far. Please see the list of my remaining cd-roms I have for sale. The average price paid for the cd-roms I've sold so far has been approx $25-40, depending on the number of discs. I am willing to consider any reasonable offers. I would love to sell large blocks of these, or the entire collection, if possible. Thanks for your attention.
ROLAND S-7XX FORMAT
Denny Jaeger Master Violin Library DJCS Inc
Smoov Grooves East West
Symphonic Adventures Audio Adventures, Inc
Steve Stevens Guitar Sample Collection East West
Quantum Leap Guitar & Bass Quantum Leap
Scoring Tools Vol 1 East West
The Ultimate Strings Collection East West
Double Platinum Rock Piano Ilio
Trance Fusion Ilio
Synclavier Sampler Library Percussion+ World & Orchestral Ilio
Fingerstyles Acoustic Melodies & Patterns Ilio
Orchestral Winds Vol 1 (Project Series) Roland
Burning Grooves Spectrasonics / Eric Persing
Liquid Grooves Spectrasonics / Eric Persing
Gigapack (2 discs) "includes Classical Choir" Sound + Vision / Best Service
Gigapack 2 (2 discs) "includes Halleluhjah Choir" Sound + Vision / Best Service
Vocal Planet (4 disc set) Spectrasonics / Eric Persing
Double Platinum Drums Ilio / Power Studios
Funky-ass Loops East West
XX-Large Extreme 1750 Drumloops Best Service
Phat + Funky East West
Fretworks Ilio
Zero-G Funk Guitar Zero-G
Supreme Beats Percussion Library Vol 1 African / Contemporary Spectrasonics / Bashiri Johnson
Supreme Beats Percussion Library Vol 2 World / Dance Spectrasonics / Bashiri Johnson
New York City Drumworks Sampleheads
New York City Percussionworks Sampleheads
Bashiri johnson's Ethno/Techno (3 disc set) Ilio
Pocket Syndrome Vol 2 Rock Guitar Sampleheads
Classic Drumming Series: Retrofunk Spectrasonics / Eric Persing
Kind Regards,
Marc
Hello, SGroup,
After nearly twenty years in music production, I am retiring from the field (except for select personal projects), and I have accumulated a really huge Roland S-7xx library. Most of the important titles are here. There are over 40 cd-roms, and I am interested in selling them. They've been in storage in my closet all these years, and have their original jewel boxes, inserts, booklets, etc. All discs work great, and are in near perfect condition. Only 2-3 jewel boxes have a broken hinge....those can easily be replaced, of course.
Any interest or input is welcome. If you are interested, I can supply a list of titles. Prices are negotiable. I would like to sell groups of cd-roms, or even the entire library, if possible.
Kind Regards,
Marc
marcwineblog(a)gmail.com
I picked up a busted S-10 for pretty cheap, and I'm trying to recondition it.
I was able to replace a couple of caps and get most functions working.
I can sample and play back, I can use it as a MIDI controller, data
sent to MIDI IN shows up on MIDI THRU... The QD has a melted belt but
I have replacements on the way. Until I get that working I can't get
through the diags far enough to be 100% certain that MIDI IN works all
the way to the CPU....
I was going to see if I could get some of the SysEx samples from the
old archive (thanks folks!) to download via MIDI, but I'm not having a
lot of luck. To start with, the manual doesn't mention hitting ENTER
after selecting one of the 4 SysEx modes. So I found that entirely by
accident. But I'm still having no luck, and I'm hoping maybe someone
here has experience to know what else may be omitted (or overlooked)
in the manual.
Here's my setup: macbook pro, generic USB-MIDI interface, running a
tool called SysEx Librarian. It reads the archives just fine, lets me
view them and the data conforms to the spec. To dump, you select
which MIDI port, and hit "play" and it sends the messages downstream
(blindly).
On the S-10 to prep I select bank, MIDI, confirm that I'm actually on
channel 1 (where the dumps come from) and that Exclusive = On. Then I
hit F1+MIDI, FWD twice to get to "one way sample data receive" (since
I can't do handshaking), and hit ENTER. At this point it says "Wait
for sample data" or some such.
I then hit play on the librarian...but the S-10 screen stays at
Waiting. I've tried hitting ENTER again after sending the data (does
nothing), hitting the bank key again (cancels)....played with a few
other keys but nothing seems to be doing it. I can't help but think
I'm missing something else, and/or that it should say something
when/if it actually starts receiving data. I'm pretty positive I'm
using the right port on my USB MIDI interface, but I tried sending to
the other one just in case, and got the same result.
I'm also a little concerned that the spec mentions a 20ms wait between
frames of SysEx data, and I don't know (not sure how I could tell) if
my librarian is honoring that.
Has anyone done this recently enough to remember if/what magic
incantation is still necessary?
Anyone had any luck running the windows tools in a virtual machine?
That's really my next line of testing. That, and getting the QD drive
working so I can get it past that part of the diags and into the part
where it tests MIDI.
Thanks....
The list didn't like my screen shot attachment, here's the rest of
what I was saying in reply to Alex:
Right, MIDI Channels are commonly referred to as 1 - 16, but in the
data they're 0 - 15, because they're 4 bits. And that does correspond
to the Device ID, or at least I would expect it to, that's the way it
has worked in other MIDI implementations I've worked with.
The byte stream at the head of each of the "chunks" of the data looks
like this (all hexidecimal):
F0 41 00 10 12 02 00 00
That's "SysEx, Roland, Channel 00, S-10, One Way Receive, address
020000 (this is the first chunk, the others increment the address by
0x100 for each chunk)"
That all corresponds to the bits in the manual from section 7 (see
attached screenshot; it's a scan so I can't just cut & paste).
The archive I was referring to is this one:
http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/samples/s10-bmarek/
I've spent a lot of time the last month combing the interwebs for
something like this, and when I found it, it was awesome. I just
have to figure out how to get it into the keyboard, since I don't have
a way to write QD's from my mac or anything else....and I'm really not
up for creating my own interface.
Speaking of which, I did run across someone who recently started
talking about trying to adapt hardware used to make an SD card look
like a floppy drive for this kind of thing in order to emulate the QD.
That would be great if it pans out, but it was in pretty early stages
when I read it....
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-electronic-musi…
There was another thread at the HxC forum asking about specs for the
drive, I plan to post the link to the S-10 service manual I have,
which has a lot of those sorts of details (timing etc), hopefully that
will help someone move it along too.... Of course I have to wait
until the forum approves me :-)
Thanks for the suggestions....
Hi everybody,
I have a SYS-333 sequencer package that I am about to post on eBay but I
thought that I should offer it on the list first. The set is complete with
the three disks, the manual, the dongle and the vinyl box. A corner of the
box is cracked but otherwise the package is in good condition. I have no
mean to test it as I don't own an S-330 anymore. 20$ negotiable.
Contact me off-list if you're interested.
Jean-Robert Harvey
Hey guys (and gals?) I just scored (off of ebay) about 130 disks for my S
550. Oh man it's SOOOOOO nice to have this thing up and running, and the
sounds are GREAT. (only had a chance to try 1 or 2 disks thus far. But I
just wanted to share.
Currently I'm trying to figure out my EMU Ultra so my Rolands have been on
the back burner.
Hope everyone is well.
Peace,
Rob
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Yeah
Is there anyone out there that can help me with Info on how to set up
my Roland S550 to a pa board. Also do I need to use any kind of soft
ware with the Roland S550. And how do I use the unit with roland
Keyboard and Midi. I'm a beginner and need some help.
Hi,
Ha Ha, yeah you have to love them remember using them on my Korg SQD1
and Akai X7000,
I might have some unused in my loft,Roland brand,if so will post.
Jason
Hi, Jonathan. It's been a really long time since I had the S-10 (loved those mini-disks!) but I'm guessing what you're seeing is just the natural limits of sample stretching. Instead of letting you play a sample all across the keyboard to the point where it sounds really awful and only dogs can hear it Roland lets you go up to a certain note and then they prevent you from playing that sample any higher. I thought it just played the highest note over and over again even when you played higher on the keyboard - I don't remember it repeating the whole octave. This is just a guess, but for only one sample with no split, three octaves sounds like it's all you're going to get.
Anyone currently with the S-10 can correct me if I'm wrong. But if you need more than three octaves you're probably going to have to do more samples and then set up your own splits.
'Glad to see folks are making good use of the "old" technology. I used to love my S-10 - somewhere I'd gotten this awesome complex sustained orchestral hit type of sample that might've come with the unit. It sounded fantastic. I think it was called 'Peter Gabriel.' I still have a sample of it for my S-550 someplace.
Jesse
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jonathan Randall <randaj38(a)me.com>
>Sent: Nov 30, 2011 11:27 PM
>To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
>Subject: [sgroup] QUESTION ON THE ROLAND S-10
>
>I have been playing around with my ROland S-10 and have just created a simple 514K sample of a bass guitar in Band D. I have no other sample, and after pressing F1/F2 there don't seem to be any splits or anything else.
>
>The problem is that my sample plays nicely across the first3 octaves of the keyboard then on the final octave the pitch repeats the second last octave rather than continuing to go higher.
>
>Im guessing this is either a really word problem or some simple setting that Ive missed.
>
>Any help much appreciated….Given there is no split and only this single bank loaded I just can't figure out why my first 3 octaves are fine and this last octave is a near repeat of the second last octave.
>
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I have been playing around with my ROland S-10 and have just created a simple 514K sample of a bass guitar in Band D. I have no other sample, and after pressing F1/F2 there don't seem to be any splits or anything else.
The problem is that my sample plays nicely across the first3 octaves of the keyboard then on the final octave the pitch repeats the second last octave rather than continuing to go higher.
Im guessing this is either a really word problem or some simple setting that Ive missed.
Any help much appreciated….Given there is no split and only this single bank loaded I just can't figure out why my first 3 octaves are fine and this last octave is a near repeat of the second last octave.
Thanks Jon
It really shouldn't be that hard to do.
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> Are there any Roland S550 Samplier User in the Romulus, Mi Area that can
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> What is the proccess I need help Thank you
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Yeah
Are there any Roland S550 Samplier User in the Romulus, Mi Area that can help me
with the set up of a the Roland S550 Samplier being hooked up to a mixing board.
What is the proccess I need help Thank you
hi everyone
just a heads up: i'm selling my s550 rig on ebay - item# 290629716995 and thought i'd let you know. pretty full library of sounds on floppy, cd-roms and syquest, working roland mouse, full manuals, no monitor.
end of an era.... ;-)
best
b
bruce tovsky
www.skeletonhome.com
"Sometimes the appropriate response to reality is to go insane."
Philip K. Dick
What is the chip, so we can look and tell you if
there's any chance this is the culprit.
At 11/8/2011 08:06 AM, Alex Mylnikov wrote:
>As I understand, all available replacement boards are from disassembled
>used S-50 samplers.
>The key question - what component tends to fault, because it's clear that
>the problem is common now.
>Jim Atwood mentioned that this could be related to a black resin coated
>chip on the main CPU board. If chip is similar to juno 106 voice chips
>there is no sense to exchange one board to another and wait when the
>problem repeats.
>I doubt the Roland service could advise something. I'll try to find what
>the kind of chip is it.
>Alex Mylnikov
>
>2011/11/8 William Nofi <billnofi(a)gmail.com>
>
> > I have the same issue with my S-50.
> > I have opened it up and checked all components, it looks good, but
> > looks are deceiving. I cleaned up the phono jacks and sprayed with air
> > and contact cleaner. No luck.
> > Someone had mentioned that the components go bad, like the capacitors
> > or transistors, and would need to be replaced. More work than I want
> > to invest in the S-50.
> > If you really want to get it working, there are some web sites where
> > you can buy replacement circuit boards.
> >
> > Or just use it as an awesome MIDI controller. :)
> >
> >
> > 2011/11/7 áÌÅËÓÁÎÄÒ íÙÌØÎÉËÏ× <phan2m(a)bigmir.net>:
> > > Hello to all.
> > > I have Roland S-50 sampler in nearly mint condition. Just one minor
> > issue:
> > > periodic overload (overdrive) of output signal. I've tested power/filter
> > > board and it works fine. S-50 is equipped with multivoltage power supply
> > > and I've tried 117 and 220V wirings but always is the same: every 7-8th
> > > notes from S-50 are played distorted. The Visually sampler is in perfect
> > > condition - all seems to work fine, there are no sights of burnt
> > components
> > > inside. This problem exists on all outputs: individual, phones, mix.
> > > I've seen few mentions of similar issues in the internet:
> > > http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/s50.php and
> > >
> >
> http://jimatwood.wordpress.com/2011/09/16/free-roland-s-50-sampler-found/....
> > > Does anybody know how to cope with this problem?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alex Mylnikov
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Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
Hello to all.
I have Roland S-50 sampler in nearly mint condition. Just one minor issue:
periodic overload (overdrive) of output signal. I've tested power/filter
board and it works fine. S-50 is equipped with multivoltage power supply
and I've tried 117 and 220V wirings but always is the same: every 7-8th
notes from S-50 are played distorted. The Visually sampler is in perfect
condition - all seems to work fine, there are no sights of burnt components
inside. This problem exists on all outputs: individual, phones, mix.
I've seen few mentions of similar issues in the internet:
http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/s50.php and
http://jimatwood.wordpress.com/2011/09/16/free-roland-s-50-sampler-found/.
Does anybody know how to cope with this problem?
Thanks,
Alex Mylnikov
Hello All,
I've had my S-770 about 3 months now and it's been working like a champ
until today. I have 16 Mb of RAM that suddenly doesn't show up when the
system boots. The only thing that has changed about my system recently was
that I added an external SCSI HD, which the 770 had no problem
formatting/copying/loading/saving, etc.
I have removed all external devices (CD-ROM, Zip and HD) and tried
re-booting. The system loads from the internal HD fine, but I cannot load
anything into RAM because RAM memory is listed at 0.00 seconds. When I try
to load a Sample/Patch, etc the 770 just freezes.
Any thoughts?
Rikk
Nashville, TN
Any of you see my post about holding down the number 1 key while
booting the S550?
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> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Need mouse for S550
> To: Jasper de Haas <jasperdehaas(a)gmail.com>, Garth Hjelte
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> If you can find one. Or, make the interface board. $80 doesn't look so
> bad. I have 3 samplers and one mouse and optical bd. Only need one for
> editing. The other samplers auto load.
>
> Randy Hoffman
>
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> Get an old MSX mouse.. they are the same. I i can remember correctly.
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> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Garth Hjelte <garth(a)chickensys.com> wrote:
>> At 10:44 AM 9/22/2011, you wrote:
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>>> PS, "reply all" works for me.
>>
>> I agree with Colin, industry-standard is "reply to the list". I never use
>> Reply-To-All for any reason in any other situation. A list is a single
>> entity that just happens to comprise of multiple people. It's the list's
>> responsibility to disseminate things, not the original client.
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>> A list should encourage posting back to the list, not to the individual
>> person.
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>>> >always have to remember to paste in the sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
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Yeah
Thanks for that info Dennis - I'll give it a try. I hardly ever even switch my S550 on these days but it certainly would be nice to fix it.
Regards - Colin
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On Sep 22, 2011, at 4:33, dennis barton wrote:
>
> I thought just one fusible resistor fails if you do this. Maybe an easy fix?
>
> At 9/21/2011 03:37 PM, you wrote:
>> Hi Garth,
>>
>> Whatever you do, do NOT try to use an old Microsoft mouse. The plug is the same as the S550 but the pin config is different. I tried and blew the board on mine and now I have to use the front panel only.
>>
>> Regards
>> Colin
>> __________________________________________________________
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2011, at 4:06, Garth Hjelte wrote:
>>
>> > Hi, I just got a S550 off eBay, wanted to support S550 a little more.
>> >
>> > It has a problem; it looks like the down-arrow button is stuck or something. When I hooked the unit to a monitor, the cursor goes down by itself constantly.
>> >
>> > Rather than returning it, I wanted to get a mouse for it (didn't come with one). Where can one get a mouse for these units nowadays?
>> >
>> > And can it be used for the S760 as well?
>> >
>> > Garth Hjelte
>> > Sampler User
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> Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
At 08:49 AM 9/22/2011, you wrote:
>I had the same thing happen with my S550. I "think" (I'd have to look in the
>manual) then when you turn it on if you hold down the number 1 key fixed it.
>Something about it not trying to detect the mouse or something like that.
>I'd have to look in the manual again.
>Hope this helps
You're right, it was in MOUSE mode and I just had to start up with
"1" pressed.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
I had the same thing happen with my S550. I "think" (I'd have to look in the
manual) then when you turn it on if you hold down the number 1 key fixed it.
Something about it not trying to detect the mouse or something like that.
I'd have to look in the manual again.
Hope this helps
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Yeah
Hi, I just got a S550 off eBay, wanted to support S550 a little more.
It has a problem; it looks like the down-arrow button is stuck or
something. When I hooked the unit to a monitor, the cursor goes down
by itself constantly.
Rather than returning it, I wanted to get a mouse for it (didn't come
with one). Where can one get a mouse for these units nowadays?
And can it be used for the S760 as well?
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
At 11:21 PM 9/20/2011, you wrote:
>In the last couple of weeks, on EBAY I've seen at least 3
>mice. They eventually go for $70. (the S760's are black) I've
>kept mine from the S550 I owned for my 2 S760's. It is white.
OK. $80 is the one I saw. $80 for a mouse? So what if they are hard
to find. I bought the S550 for less than $80.
>You can stop that cursor problem and still us the front panel
>instead of a mouse by setting up the S550 with a configuration
>change. I forgot the instruction. It should be in the manual that
>you can get on the Roland site.
I didn't understand you at first, but now I get it. I just started up
the S550 with the "1" key pressed down, and that gave the front panel
control back. Thanks!
Now onto the fun.
>>Hi, I just got a S550 off eBay, wanted to support S550 a little more.
>>It has a problem; it looks like the down-arrow button is stuck or
>>something. When I hooked the unit to a monitor, the cursor goes
>>down by itself constantly.
>>Rather than returning it, I wanted to get a mouse for it (didn't
>>come with one). Where can one get a mouse for these units nowadays?
>>And can it be used for the S760 as well?
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
Hello all,
Just acquired an S-50 keyboard and it has a slight problem I hope someone
could help with, or at least as heard what mine is doing.
All output is static and garbled. Sometimes, it sounds "clean", but usually
it produces a noisy output. Tried different cables, speakers, headphones,
all the same results. Tried several patch disks, same result.
Tried cleaning the jacks, no change. The sound is static across all outputs.
The keys itself work, as I hooked it up via MIDI to another module, and had
no problems.
Again, sometimes (randomly), I will get a clean sound. I have not been able
to reproduce it consistently.
Has anyone had a similar experience, and what did you do (if anything) to
fix? I know it is a 20 year old synth, I'm just hoping to breath some life
into it. I had an S-10 years ago, and loved it.
Thank you,
Bill
I'm looking for some decent small sized string sections to accompany my
Piano samples.
I have a copy of the SP_SV01 which has a Yamaha C7 Piano which sounds great.
Anyone have any suggestions for a quick and dirty solution?
I dont care too much about 'Quality' as the S760 sampler has all the F
cutoffs and adjustments to make anything sound nice. I do like Patches which
are about 3-5MBs in size. It allows you to fit a lot onto one volume so when
you gig you can have everything on a single volume.
Cheers
Adrian
Hi guys,
I was wondering how I can get some 'reverb' for my square wave, at the
moment it sounds quite 'in your face' due to no reverb, I do make the TVA
release time a bit longer so it 'fades' out, but what is a method, or your
method of getting effects such as reverb on top of your sounds?
Cheers,
Adrian
Oh, I see, it's quite strange.
the smt velocity does not control the actual velocity of the note,
(the Note on still does), but sometimes you can have a multi velocity
partial which has say 4 samples which chop the Velocity up into
sections.
Partial #1
Sample 1 = 1->40
Sample 2 = 30->60
Sample 3 = 50 -> 100
Sample 4 = 90 -> 127
Note how the samples overlap so we can use the crossfades.
When a Note On is received, the partial must know the Velocity so it
knows which samples to trigger. If the SMT is set to say a CC#2 and
SMT Velocity Control is set to off, then the value of CC#2 will
determine the Velocity.
However the Velocity of the Note on will still determine how loud the
samples sound.
Though, on the otherhand, if the SMT velocity control is set to On (or
Note ON controlled), then the incoming Note On velocities are used to
determine which velocity section of the partial to trigger.
Adrian
Hi,
I'm having trouble understanding what this parameter does. There's a
SMT Velocity Control
I know the Velocity is controlled by the Note On Data 3 byte, but when
the SMT Vel Control is set to Off, and the the Patch Has it's SMT
Control Selection set to Ctrl Change, and the Ctrl Sel is set to #30,
shouldn't the CC#30 control the velocity of the Resulting SMT / Note
Ons?
So the Value of CC#30 controls the velocity and not the Note Ons?
It doesn't seem to be working for me... and this is testing under the
performance tab.
Am I missing something here?
Cheers,
Adrian
Dealextreme also has tiny monitors last time I looked, if you prefer
a dedicated monitor.
At 7/12/2011 01:12 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
>Take a look at my setup here.
>
>I use an HVR-900 which has both Composite and Svideo capture (as well
>as DVB) you can pick one of these up for about $10 at electronic
>hardware stores..
>https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oPlLaqXBtbM/TfQa3V6jqoI/AAAAAAAAFt0/Mwav…
>
>
>Here's a link with Free shipping:
>http://www.dealextreme.com/p/easycap-usb-video-capture-adapter-5707
>It's only $8!
>
>
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> > 1. Re: Windows S760 Editor (Richard Sven Patterson)
> > 2. Re: Windows S760 Editor (marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com)
> > 3. Re: Windows S760 Editor (marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com)
> > 4. Re: Windows S760 Editor (Marcel Prisi)
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> > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:22:49 -0500
> > From: Richard Sven Patterson <rsp(a)richardsven.com>
> > Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> > To: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com, sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
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> > At 8:34 AM -0400 12/7/11, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > >No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have 2
> > >back in my setup.
> > >
> > >Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with
> > >something newer, low cost btw ?
> >
> >
> > anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and
> > harder to find
> >
> > rsp
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > >
> > >>Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do. I find
> > >>that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a S760
> > aint
> > >>too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
> > >>
> > >>Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
> > >>
> > >>=====
> > >>
> > >>Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to
> > "decipher"
> > >>the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would be a
> > piece
> > >>of p1ss.
> > >>
> > >>I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex byte and
> > >>see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I know
> > Kontakt,
> > >>ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure they
> > didn't
> > >>reverse engineer the darn thing!
> > >>
> > >>Any ideas?
> > >>
> > >>Cheers,
> > >>
> > >>Adrian
> > >>
> > >>On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be nice.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>Hi guys,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would write ISO
> > >>>>files
> > >>>>for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT Display
> > >>>>that
> > >>>>the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the parameters
> > >>>>easier.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone else find
> > >>>>this
> > >>>>software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is powerful,
> > >>>>but
> > >>>>it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers of
> > >>>>complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or better?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Cheers,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Adrian
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:13:27 -0400
> > From: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> > To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
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> > Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
> >
> > On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Richard Sven Patterson wrote:
> >
> > > At 8:34 AM -0400 12/7/11, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > >> No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have
> > >> 2 back in my setup.
> > >>
> > >> Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with
> > >> something newer, low cost btw ?
> > >
> > >
> > > anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and
> > > harder to find
> > >
> > > rsp
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do.
> > >>> I find
> > >>> that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a
> > >>> S760 aint
> > >>> too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
> > >>>
> > >>> Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
> > >>>
> > >>> =====
> > >>>
> > >>> Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to
> > >>> "decipher"
> > >>> the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would
> > >>> be a piece
> > >>> of p1ss.
> > >>>
> > >>> I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex
> > >>> byte and
> > >>> see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I know
> > >>> Kontakt,
> > >>> ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure
> > >>> they didn't
> > >>> reverse engineer the darn thing!
> > >>>
> > >>> Any ideas?
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>>
> > >>> Adrian
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be nice.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi guys,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would
> > >>>>> write ISO
> > >>>>> files
> > >>>>> for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT
> > >>>>> Display
> > >>>>> that
> > >>>>> the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the
> > >>>>> parameters
> > >>>>> easier.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone
> > >>>>> else find
> > >>>>> this
> > >>>>> software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is
> > >>>>> powerful,
> > >>>>> but
> > >>>>> it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers of
> > >>>>> complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or
> > >>>>> better?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Adrian
> > >>>>> ______________________________**_________________
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> > http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/
> > >>>>> >for more information.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > >>>> Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
> > >>>>
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:43:56 -0400
> > From: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> > To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> > Message-ID: <6DF59408-901D-42BA-9B02-5C0D96D00A0F(a)gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> >
> >
> >
> > > yes, but small, and affordable perhaps, nothing to overkill.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jul 12, 2011, at 11:11 AM, dennis dodd wrote:
> > >
> > >> For what, more modern video display?
> > >>
> > >> From: "marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com" <marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com>
> > >> To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:13 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> > >>
> > >> Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:20:42 +0200 (CEST)
> > From: Marcel Prisi <marcel(a)virtua.ch>
> > Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> > To: marais de cygnes <marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com>
> > Cc: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> > Message-ID: <a4ed436c-655d-4365-8d28-2c4c5d39ebff@hannibal>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have been using TV cards on laptops/PC's, you can find low cost USB or
> > PCI cards everywhere, just check that they have an svideo input AND
> > cable/plug.
> >
> > This way you don't waste more space than necessary, and can use Alt-Tab to
> > switch to your sampler (still have to use the other mouse unfortunately).
> >
> > This one looks OK :
> >
> > http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_usblive2.html
> >
> > If the bundled software is a bit of an overkill, you can try this one :
> >
> > http://www.kastortv.org
> >
> > I found it to be just excellent.
> >
> > Kind regards.
> >
> > ----- Mail original -----
> > > Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
> > >
> > > On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Richard Sven Patterson wrote:
> > >
> > > > At 8:34 AM -0400 12/7/11, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have
> > > >> 2 back in my setup.
> > > >>
> > > >> Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with
> > > >> something newer, low cost btw ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and
> > > > harder to find
> > > >
> > > > rsp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do.
> > > >>> I find
> > > >>> that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a
> > > >>> S760 aint
> > > >>> too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> =====
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to
> > > >>> "decipher"
> > > >>> the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would
> > > >>> be a piece
> > > >>> of p1ss.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex
> > > >>> byte and
> > > >>> see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I
> > > >>> know
> > > >>> Kontakt,
> > > >>> ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure
> > > >>> they didn't
> > > >>> reverse engineer the darn thing!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Any ideas?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Cheers,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Adrian
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton
> > > >>> <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be
> > > >>>> nice.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi guys,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would
> > > >>>>> write ISO
> > > >>>>> files
> > > >>>>> for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT
> > > >>>>> Display
> > > >>>>> that
> > > >>>>> the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the
> > > >>>>> parameters
> > > >>>>> easier.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone
> > > >>>>> else find
> > > >>>>> this
> > > >>>>> software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is
> > > >>>>> powerful,
> > > >>>>> but
> > > >>>>> it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers
> > > >>>>> of
> > > >>>>> complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or
> > > >>>>> better?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Cheers,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Adrian
> > > >>>>> ______________________________**_________________
> > > >>>>> Sent by the sgroup mailing list
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> > > >>>>> For subscribe/unsubscribe:
> > > >>>>> http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/**listinfo/sgroup
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> > > >>>>> See
> > > >>>>> http://www.generalconcepts.**com/sgroup/<
> > http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/
> > > >>>>> >for more information.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > > >>>> Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> _______________________________________________
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> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > rsp(a)richardsven.com
> > > > 876-869-5902 (digicel)
> > > > 876-620-8899 (fax)
> > > > 305-433-4143 (vonage)
> > > > "Find a job you love and you will never work a day in your life."
> > > > skype:houndogmusic
> > > > http://www.myspace.com/richardsven
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> > >
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> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:43:35 -0400
> > From: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> > To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> > Message-ID: <513092D0-CE7C-4228-B583-3CD0BECB5318(a)gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
> >
> > anyone doing this with a mac display btw ?
> >
> > On Jul 12, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Marcel Prisi wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have been using TV cards on laptops/PC's, you can find low cost
> > > USB or PCI cards everywhere, just check that they have an svideo
> > > input AND cable/plug.
> > >
> > > This way you don't waste more space than necessary, and can use Alt-
> > > Tab to switch to your sampler (still have to use the other mouse
> > > unfortunately).
> > >
> > > This one looks OK :
> > >
> > > http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_usblive2.html
> > >
> > > If the bundled software is a bit of an overkill, you can try this
> > > one :
> > >
> > > http://www.kastortv.org
> > >
> > > I found it to be just excellent.
> > >
> > > Kind regards.
> > >
> > > ----- Mail original -----
> > >> Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
> > >>
> > >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Richard Sven Patterson wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> At 8:34 AM -0400 12/7/11, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>> No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have
> > >>>> 2 back in my setup.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with
> > >>>> something newer, low cost btw ?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and
> > >>> harder to find
> > >>>
> > >>> rsp
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do.
> > >>>>> I find
> > >>>>> that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a
> > >>>>> S760 aint
> > >>>>> too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> =====
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to
> > >>>>> "decipher"
> > >>>>> the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would
> > >>>>> be a piece
> > >>>>> of p1ss.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex
> > >>>>> byte and
> > >>>>> see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I
> > >>>>> know
> > >>>>> Kontakt,
> > >>>>> ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure
> > >>>>> they didn't
> > >>>>> reverse engineer the darn thing!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Any ideas?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Adrian
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton
> > >>>>> <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be
> > >>>>>> nice.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi guys,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would
> > >>>>>>> write ISO
> > >>>>>>> files
> > >>>>>>> for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT
> > >>>>>>> Display
> > >>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>> the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the
> > >>>>>>> parameters
> > >>>>>>> easier.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone
> > >>>>>>> else find
> > >>>>>>> this
> > >>>>>>> software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is
> > >>>>>>> powerful,
> > >>>>>>> but
> > >>>>>>> it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers
> > >>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>> complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or
> > >>>>>>> better?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Adrian
> > >>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
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> > >>>>>>> http://www.generalconcepts.**com/sgroup/<
> > http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/
> > >>>>>>>> for more information.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > >>>>>> Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
> > >>>>>>
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> > >>> 876-620-8899 (fax)
> > >>> 305-433-4143 (vonage)
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> > >>> skype:houndogmusic
> > >>> http://www.myspace.com/richardsven
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If it's good enough for Eric...
I can't fairly judge Kontact since I don't own a copy, but I have Structure libraries for the Fantom and Triton, and they fall well short of the JV and Trinity hardware I keep in the rack. I suppose it could have as much (or more) to do with the quality of sampling, but it's true to my ears none-the-less...
On Wed Jul 13th, 2011 1:00 AM EDT Richard Sven Patterson wrote:
>On Tue, July 12, 2011 11:30 pm, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
>> and the S750 is even better thanthe 760 but thats a whole nother shit
>> storm : )
>
>good sources says the 770 was king:
>http://www.vi-control.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=186943#186943
>
>
>from:
>
>http://www.vi-control.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14445
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 11:43 PM, Richard Sven Patterson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> coming in late.
>>>
>>> contrart to what some others said, my own two cents is the DA and
>>> the filters on the s0760 kill.
>>>
>>> yes the DA's aren't as clean as my lynx or someones apogee etc. but
>>> to me they were 'warm' 'fat' and all those other cliches.
>>>
>>> and the filters for me were superb....
>>>
>>> ymmv
>>>
>>> rsp
>>>
>>> At 7:23 PM -0700 12/7/11, dennis barton wrote:
>>>> \
>>>> I never thought the s760 had a good filter at all. Usable, but
>>>> nothing like an analog synth.
>>>>
>>>> Now if we are talking about *latency*, then the s760 is better than
>>>> these Windows based samplers, even with the fastest drivers.
>>>> Latency is no real issue for most of you, but it is for playing
>>>> samplers live.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 7/12/2011 01:34 PM, Colin Shapiro wrote:
>>>>> Sure, and vinyl is better than digital and they don't even make
>>>>> movies like they used to back in the 1930's.
>>>>>
>>>>> Henry Ford once said that if he had asked people what they wanted,
>>>>> they would have said "a faster horse".
>>>>> ________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 22:37, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> But the D/A's in most cases our inferior to the S760 unless you
>>>>>> have cotton in your ears. Also the Filter in the S760 is better
>>>>>> as well, and perhaps a coincidence the music being made with
>>>>>> hardware samples was much better than 90% of the pure crap we
>>>>>> hear now in the box.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
>>>> Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
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>>>
>>> --
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>>> 876-869-5902 (digicel)
>>> 876-620-8899 (fax)
>>> 305-433-4143 (vonage)
>>> "Find a job you love and you will never work a day in your life."
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I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be nice.
At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
>Hi guys,
>
>I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would write ISO files
>for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
>
>It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT Display that
>the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the parameters
>easier.
>
>I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone else find this
>software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is powerful, but
>it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers of
>complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
>
>Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or better?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Adrian
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http://translate.google.co.nz/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://park19.wakwak.…
It's got a lot of useful information including a link to the S760 MIDI
Implementation chart, how to add CFDisk to the S760, and much much
more!
Perhaps this is a better way than a Windows Editor mirroring the S760
UI, but for the program to send down MIDI data which Manipulates the
data on the S760.??
Adrian
Take a look at my setup here.
I use an HVR-900 which has both Composite and Svideo capture (as well
as DVB) you can pick one of these up for about $10 at electronic
hardware stores..
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oPlLaqXBtbM/TfQa3V6jqoI/AAAAAAAAFt0/Mwav…
Here's a link with Free shipping:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/easycap-usb-video-capture-adapter-5707
It's only $8!
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> 1. Re: Windows S760 Editor (Richard Sven Patterson)
> 2. Re: Windows S760 Editor (marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com)
> 3. Re: Windows S760 Editor (marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com)
> 4. Re: Windows S760 Editor (Marcel Prisi)
> 5. Re: Windows S760 Editor (marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:22:49 -0500
> From: Richard Sven Patterson <rsp(a)richardsven.com>
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> To: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com, sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
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> At 8:34 AM -0400 12/7/11, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> >No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have 2
> >back in my setup.
> >
> >Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with
> >something newer, low cost btw ?
>
>
> anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and
> harder to find
>
> rsp
>
>
>
> >
> >On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> >
> >>Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do. I find
> >>that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a S760
> aint
> >>too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
> >>
> >>Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
> >>
> >>=====
> >>
> >>Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to
> "decipher"
> >>the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would be a
> piece
> >>of p1ss.
> >>
> >>I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex byte and
> >>see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I know
> Kontakt,
> >>ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure they
> didn't
> >>reverse engineer the darn thing!
> >>
> >>Any ideas?
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>
> >>Adrian
> >>
> >>On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be nice.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Hi guys,
> >>>>
> >>>>I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would write ISO
> >>>>files
> >>>>for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> >>>>
> >>>>It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT Display
> >>>>that
> >>>>the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the parameters
> >>>>easier.
> >>>>
> >>>>I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone else find
> >>>>this
> >>>>software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is powerful,
> >>>>but
> >>>>it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers of
> >>>>complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> >>>>
> >>>>Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or better?
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>>Adrian
> >>>>______________________________**_________________
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> >>>>more information.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> >>>Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
> >>>
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> richard sven patterson
> rsp(a)richardsven.com
> 876-869-5902 (digicel)
> 876-620-8899 (fax)
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:13:27 -0400
> From: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> Message-ID: <929624DB-01EA-4B72-9CF8-89BC5CC87B7F(a)gmail.com>
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> Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
>
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Richard Sven Patterson wrote:
>
> > At 8:34 AM -0400 12/7/11, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> >> No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have
> >> 2 back in my setup.
> >>
> >> Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with
> >> something newer, low cost btw ?
> >
> >
> > anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and
> > harder to find
> >
> > rsp
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do.
> >>> I find
> >>> that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a
> >>> S760 aint
> >>> too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
> >>>
> >>> Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
> >>>
> >>> =====
> >>>
> >>> Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to
> >>> "decipher"
> >>> the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would
> >>> be a piece
> >>> of p1ss.
> >>>
> >>> I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex
> >>> byte and
> >>> see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I know
> >>> Kontakt,
> >>> ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure
> >>> they didn't
> >>> reverse engineer the darn thing!
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Adrian
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be nice.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would
> >>>>> write ISO
> >>>>> files
> >>>>> for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT
> >>>>> Display
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the
> >>>>> parameters
> >>>>> easier.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone
> >>>>> else find
> >>>>> this
> >>>>> software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is
> >>>>> powerful,
> >>>>> but
> >>>>> it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers of
> >>>>> complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or
> >>>>> better?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Adrian
> >>>>> ______________________________**_________________
> >>>>> Sent by the sgroup mailing list
> >>>>> sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
> >>>>> For subscribe/unsubscribe:
> http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/**listinfo/sgroup
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> >>>>> See http://www.generalconcepts.**com/sgroup/<
> http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/
> >>>>> >for more information.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> >>>> Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > richard sven patterson
> > rsp(a)richardsven.com
> > 876-869-5902 (digicel)
> > 876-620-8899 (fax)
> > 305-433-4143 (vonage)
> > "Find a job you love and you will never work a day in your life."
> > skype:houndogmusic
> > http://www.myspace.com/richardsven
> > http://soundsculptist.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:43:56 -0400
> From: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> Message-ID: <6DF59408-901D-42BA-9B02-5C0D96D00A0F(a)gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>
>
> > yes, but small, and affordable perhaps, nothing to overkill.
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Jul 12, 2011, at 11:11 AM, dennis dodd wrote:
> >
> >> For what, more modern video display?
> >>
> >> From: "marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com" <marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com>
> >> To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:13 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> >>
> >> Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:20:42 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Marcel Prisi <marcel(a)virtua.ch>
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> To: marais de cygnes <marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> Message-ID: <a4ed436c-655d-4365-8d28-2c4c5d39ebff@hannibal>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hi,
>
> I have been using TV cards on laptops/PC's, you can find low cost USB or
> PCI cards everywhere, just check that they have an svideo input AND
> cable/plug.
>
> This way you don't waste more space than necessary, and can use Alt-Tab to
> switch to your sampler (still have to use the other mouse unfortunately).
>
> This one looks OK :
>
> http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_usblive2.html
>
> If the bundled software is a bit of an overkill, you can try this one :
>
> http://www.kastortv.org
>
> I found it to be just excellent.
>
> Kind regards.
>
> ----- Mail original -----
> > Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
> >
> > On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Richard Sven Patterson wrote:
> >
> > > At 8:34 AM -0400 12/7/11, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > >> No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have
> > >> 2 back in my setup.
> > >>
> > >> Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with
> > >> something newer, low cost btw ?
> > >
> > >
> > > anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and
> > > harder to find
> > >
> > > rsp
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do.
> > >>> I find
> > >>> that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a
> > >>> S760 aint
> > >>> too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
> > >>>
> > >>> Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
> > >>>
> > >>> =====
> > >>>
> > >>> Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to
> > >>> "decipher"
> > >>> the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would
> > >>> be a piece
> > >>> of p1ss.
> > >>>
> > >>> I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex
> > >>> byte and
> > >>> see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I
> > >>> know
> > >>> Kontakt,
> > >>> ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure
> > >>> they didn't
> > >>> reverse engineer the darn thing!
> > >>>
> > >>> Any ideas?
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>>
> > >>> Adrian
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton
> > >>> <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be
> > >>>> nice.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi guys,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would
> > >>>>> write ISO
> > >>>>> files
> > >>>>> for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT
> > >>>>> Display
> > >>>>> that
> > >>>>> the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the
> > >>>>> parameters
> > >>>>> easier.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone
> > >>>>> else find
> > >>>>> this
> > >>>>> software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is
> > >>>>> powerful,
> > >>>>> but
> > >>>>> it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers
> > >>>>> of
> > >>>>> complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or
> > >>>>> better?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Adrian
> > >>>>> ______________________________**_________________
> > >>>>> Sent by the sgroup mailing list
> > >>>>> sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
> > >>>>> For subscribe/unsubscribe:
> > >>>>> http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/**listinfo/sgroup
> > >>>>> <http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup>
> > >>>>> See
> > >>>>> http://www.generalconcepts.**com/sgroup/<
> http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/
> > >>>>> >for more information.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > >>>> Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
> > >>>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> Sent by the sgroup mailing list
> > >>> sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
> > >>> For subscribe/unsubscribe:
> > >>> http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup
> > >>> See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > richard sven patterson
> > > rsp(a)richardsven.com
> > > 876-869-5902 (digicel)
> > > 876-620-8899 (fax)
> > > 305-433-4143 (vonage)
> > > "Find a job you love and you will never work a day in your life."
> > > skype:houndogmusic
> > > http://www.myspace.com/richardsven
> > > http://soundsculptist.blogspot.com/
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:43:35 -0400
> From: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
> To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> Message-ID: <513092D0-CE7C-4228-B583-3CD0BECB5318(a)gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> anyone doing this with a mac display btw ?
>
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Marcel Prisi wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have been using TV cards on laptops/PC's, you can find low cost
> > USB or PCI cards everywhere, just check that they have an svideo
> > input AND cable/plug.
> >
> > This way you don't waste more space than necessary, and can use Alt-
> > Tab to switch to your sampler (still have to use the other mouse
> > unfortunately).
> >
> > This one looks OK :
> >
> > http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_usblive2.html
> >
> > If the bundled software is a bit of an overkill, you can try this
> > one :
> >
> > http://www.kastortv.org
> >
> > I found it to be just excellent.
> >
> > Kind regards.
> >
> > ----- Mail original -----
> >> Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
> >>
> >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Richard Sven Patterson wrote:
> >>
> >>> At 8:34 AM -0400 12/7/11, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have
> >>>> 2 back in my setup.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with
> >>>> something newer, low cost btw ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and
> >>> harder to find
> >>>
> >>> rsp
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do.
> >>>>> I find
> >>>>> that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a
> >>>>> S760 aint
> >>>>> too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =====
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to
> >>>>> "decipher"
> >>>>> the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would
> >>>>> be a piece
> >>>>> of p1ss.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex
> >>>>> byte and
> >>>>> see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I
> >>>>> know
> >>>>> Kontakt,
> >>>>> ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure
> >>>>> they didn't
> >>>>> reverse engineer the darn thing!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any ideas?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Adrian
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton
> >>>>> <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be
> >>>>>> nice.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would
> >>>>>>> write ISO
> >>>>>>> files
> >>>>>>> for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT
> >>>>>>> Display
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>> the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the
> >>>>>>> parameters
> >>>>>>> easier.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone
> >>>>>>> else find
> >>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>> software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is
> >>>>>>> powerful,
> >>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>> it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or
> >>>>>>> better?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Adrian
> >>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
> >>>>>>> Sent by the sgroup mailing list
> >>>>>>> sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
> >>>>>>> For subscribe/unsubscribe:
> >>>>>>> http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/**listinfo/sgroup
> >>>>>>> <http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup>
> >>>>>>> See
> >>>>>>> http://www.generalconcepts.**com/sgroup/<
> http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/
> >>>>>>>> for more information.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> >>>>>> Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Sent by the sgroup mailing list
> >>>>> sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
> >>>>> For subscribe/unsubscribe:
> >>>>> http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup
> >>>>> See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> richard sven patterson
> >>> rsp(a)richardsven.com
> >>> 876-869-5902 (digicel)
> >>> 876-620-8899 (fax)
> >>> 305-433-4143 (vonage)
> >>> "Find a job you love and you will never work a day in your life."
> >>> skype:houndogmusic
> >>> http://www.myspace.com/richardsven
> >>> http://soundsculptist.blogspot.com/
> >>
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> >>
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>
I'm on the list because I have an S-760 (and an S-550) and I still use them from time to time, though less and less as it happens. I like to keep in touch with discussions that are relevant to me.
I have some great S-760 sample libraries (eg Spectrasonics stuff) and I don't have time to do conversions of all of these for EXS24 or Kontakt.
I fully respect the old hardware for what it is and what it can do, but being able to run several GB of samples on an 8-core Mac (as opposed to 32 MB on an S-760) serves my needs just fine.
______________________________________________
On Jul 12, 2011, at 22:53, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
> why are you on the list then ?
>
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Colin Shapiro wrote:
>
>> Sure, and vinyl is better than digital and they don't even make movies like they used to back in the 1930's.
>>
>> Henry Ford once said that if he had asked people what they wanted, they would have said "a faster horse".
>> ________________________________________________
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 22:37, marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> But the D/A's in most cases our inferior to the S760 unless you have cotton in your ears. Also the Filter in the S760 is better as well, and perhaps a coincidence the music being made with hardware samples was much better than 90% of the pure crap we hear now in the box.
>>> YMMV
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Colin Shapiro wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> No software sampler sounds near as good as the S760 either. I have 2 back in my setup.
>>>>
>>>> I have to disagree with that.
>>>> Software samplers these days are incredibly powerful and they sound superb.
>>>> I use Logic's EXS24 and Kontakt and they have capabilities that the S-760 can't even dream of.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any practical ways to ditch the old Atari RGB monitor and go with something newer, low cost btw ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> anything that has an s-video input. although those are harder and harder to find
>>>>
>>>> You don't even need s-video.
>>>> The S-760 has a composite video output and all you need is an RCA to RCA cable (preferably co-axial cable) and you can do straight into any TV or monitor, using Video In. That's how I have mine set up.
>>>>
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>
> yes, but small, and affordable perhaps, nothing to overkill.
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 11:11 AM, dennis dodd wrote:
>
>> For what, more modern video display?
>>
>> From: "marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com" <marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com>
>> To: sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Windows S760 Editor
>>
>> Anyone know of anything practical out there ?
>>
>>
>
To me, Directwave is just the right amount of complex.
At 7/11/2011 09:33 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
>Dennis, I just find the S760's able to do what I need them to do. I find
>that the Software Samplers are 'too' complex - simplicity (and a S760 aint
>too shabby) is a good thing when it comes to creating stuff!
>
>Get some generic strings or keys, load em up and you're playing!
>
>=====
>
>Back to the editor, perhaps the most difficult thing would be to "decipher"
>the Roland File Format, once I get this, everything I think would be a piece
>of p1ss.
>
>I could hack it and see, parameter by parameter, hex byte by hex byte and
>see what changes... but I'd rather not reverse engineer it. I know Kontakt,
>ChickenSys and CDXTract can read Roland File Formats, I'm sure they didn't
>reverse engineer the darn thing!
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Adrian
>
>On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, dennis barton <db(a)skylab2000.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I use Directwave now, but still have s760's so this would be nice.
> >
> >
> >
> > At 7/11/2011 07:36 PM, Adrian Gin wrote:
> >
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would write ISO
> >> files
> >> for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
> >>
> >> It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT Display
> >> that
> >> the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the parameters
> >> easier.
> >>
> >> I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone else find
> >> this
> >> software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is powerful,
> >> but
> >> it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers of
> >> complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
> >>
> >> Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or better?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Adrian
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Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
Hi guys,
I was thinking of making one of these for the S760, it would write ISO files
for use on say CDs or ZIP Drives.
It would have a nice user interface, based perhaps off the CRT Display that
the S760 puts, but i suppose it would allow you to edit the parameters
easier.
I could also take some "inspiration" off Kontakt (does anyone else find this
software klunky and difficult to use / make work?, Kontakt is powerful, but
it's useless if it's functionality is locked behind many layers of
complexity.) or DirectWave or something.
Are there any ideas which you wish the S760 could do easier or better?
Cheers,
Adrian
Ah yes, thanks for the help guys.
I'll have a look at global editing the Partials via the Patch page.
I don't know how I stumbled about this mailing list, but I always found the
Sgroup Archive page and just assumed that it was 'dead' and only archives.
Great to see you guys around.
This is in my apartment in Auckland, New Zealand with my setup.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oPlLaqXBtbM/TfQa3V6jqoI/AAAAAAAAFt0/Mwav…
Cheers,
Adrian
============
Look on the Performance page, 4th tab, for velocity... also do you know
about globally adjusting all partials?
Gary
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Frank Ferrucci <frank(a)criara.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Adrian Gin <adrian.gin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The only thing is that it's not that easy to adjust the velocity ranges
> for
> > patches that quick (you need to go into each partial and adjust them
> > manually).
>
> Adrian,
> If I understand you correctly, what you need to do is save custom patches
> with the velocity ranges that you want and use those in your multis instead.
> Use unique names for the patches so not to overwrite the factory patches.
> I'm not an active user but used 760s for many years. I thought I might be
> able to help.
>
> Frank Ferrucci
> Leenalisa Music, Inc.
> Music for Film and Television
> http://www.ferruccimusic.com
> <mailto:frank@ferruccimusic.com>
> 212-242-4653 New York
> 11-9831-0663 São Paulo
Hi there,
I use the S760 for live gigs / performances and it's great. I use it with
the Svideo out into my TV Capture USB Stick on my laptop. I setup the
patches and performances, save them to ZIP Drive and load em up before I
perform.
The only thing is that it's not that easy to adjust the velocity ranges for
patches that quick (you need to go into each partial and adjust them
manually). The new software samplers can do this in an instant of a click
drag and re-area ie. DirectWave / Kontakt.
Adrian
At 11:33 AM 4/12/2011, you wrote:
>I believe there was a guy who worked for ChickenSys on this list - as I
>recall we were always asking him when the S-7X support would be ready and
>he kept moving it back father and father. So it's complete, huh? I can
>take a bunch of .wav samples and mass convert them with ChickenSys to a
>media format my S-760 will understand? I guess I'd still need to do the
>keyboard mapping and do all the Patch and Performance setup myself.
S-7x support has been available for about 8-9 years now.
or this:
http://www.chickensys.com/products/translator/translator_edition_roland.php
The Roland version is only $80, and worth every penny. This is a great tool if you need to move samples from other formats to Roland readable samples as it applies/preserves the pre-emphasis that Roland uses in 5xx and 7xx sample formats.
YMMV
--- On Tue, 4/12/11, Jasper de Haas <jasperdehaas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Jasper de Haas <jasperdehaas(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] hey guys
> To: "Robbie Dude" <robbieaoa(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
> Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 11:19 AM
> http://www.fmjsoft.com/awframe.html
>
> <http://www.fmjsoft.com/awframe.html>Awave?
>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Robbie Dude <robbieaoa(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I thought the convert function was to go from S-550 to
> S-50 and vice versa?
> > I just picked up a S-50 (got it for a steal, and
> wanted to use the drive in
> > that (it works great btw) to convert some of my
> floppy's over for use on
> > the
> > S-550.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > --
> > Yeah
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I thought the convert function was to go from S-550 to S-50 and vice versa?
I just picked up a S-50 (got it for a steal, and wanted to use the drive in
that (it works great btw) to convert some of my floppy's over for use on the
S-550.
Thoughts?
--
Yeah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvqR5-14ELs
--- Gio 10/3/11, Photosynthesi <photosynthesi(a)yahoo.it> ha scritto:
> Da: Photosynthesi <photosynthesi(a)yahoo.it>
> Oggetto: [sgroup] My Roland S-550 song
> A: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
> Data: Giovedì 10 marzo 2011, 10:50
> Hello all.
> I bought my Roland S-550 in 2008 on Ebay.
> Now I'd like to share with you a track I made in a few
> minutes using this sampler a few days ago.
> All patches and samples are from the S-50 system disk n.
> 56
> "Techno Set" (i converted it to a s550 diskette usig the
> convert function on the sampler).
> The S-550 has been sequenced via MIDI by FL Studio.
> It's a direct recording from the output of the sampler.
> No effects have been used.
> I had fun playing a hit of the nineties using sounds of
> the
> eighties.
> Try to guess the song title :)
>
> Please, leave your comments!
> Bye!
>
>
>
>
>
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A shot. I finally got rid of the treadmill that was sitting there and set
this up. I really need to get a rack and not to go ghetto like this but
hey.... it works. LOL
Well, we are house sitting this weekend so I won't be home much to "play"
Next week I'll really try and get a handle on this. Thanks for the input.
Got it working without the mouse (holding down 1 while booting per the
manual) And yes.... I can see were a mouse is MUCH needed! Now I just need a
TV in my "studio" lol
I'll try to get some shot's of my gear and post them soon.
Peace.
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> 1. RE: floppy drive emulator? (CoolColJ)
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> 3. RE: Some luck (CoolColJ)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:06:04 +1100
> From: "CoolColJ" <coolcolj(a)optusnet.com.au>
> Subject: RE: [sgroup] floppy drive emulator?
> To: <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
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>
> That won't work, since they just emulate a PC floppy
>
> this will work though
>
> http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sgroup-bounces+coolcolj=optusnet.com.au(a)sgroup.ca
> [mailto:sgroup-bounces+coolcolj=optusnet.com.au@sgroup.ca] On Behalf Of
> Steven Vermeij
> Sent: Thursday, 10 March 2011 10:15 PM
> To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
> Subject: [sgroup] floppy drive emulator?
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I found this on ebay,
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/720kb-2DD-Floppy-Emulator-Roland-Yamaha-PSR-KORG-/1705
> 78260293
>
> Does anybody of you know whether this will work in the s330/ s550 samplers?
>
> Steven
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:08:51 -0800
> From: Robbie Dude <robbieaoa(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: [sgroup] Some luck
> To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
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>
> Ok, went out and got some new media. Put it into my XP box ran the sdiskw
> prog and loaded up some system software on it. Got a monitor and hooked
> that
> up as well. Fired it up, popped in the disk and it seems to be working.
> Now... if I can just figure out how to sample on the thing. Looking at the
> manual it's in the utility section (utility button) question... will I
> have
> to load up the utility disk to do this? (I'm thinking yes) Also, it's not
> seeing any of my samples disks I have for the S-50. I woulds assume I have
> to use the convert function first. Will this convert the disk? or will it
> just copy it over to a new disk?
>
> Also, seems like it wants to use the mouse. Thought I saw in the manual
> that
> I can switch that off. (looking around right now for a mouse on the web)
>
> So it looks like I'm taking baby steps here. But... hopefully I'll be
> walking soon.. then running.
>
> Thanks for your help.
> Rob
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:16:55 +1100
> From: "CoolColJ" <coolcolj(a)optusnet.com.au>
> Subject: RE: [sgroup] Some luck
> To: <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
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>
> The OS and sample utilities reside on the same disk
> Although it's been a while since I used an S-50, just assuming it's like
> the
> S-550
>
> There should be a way to turn off the mouse function when you turn on the
> unit, by holding a combo of keys as you power on.
> I don't remember what they are now.
> You will need a monitor though, it'll help a whole bunch! Anything with a
> composite input will do, an old TV through a VHS recorder
> or modern LCD TV with such an input, a PC TV card also works
>
> Any MSX mouse should work as stated a few days ago here, a few on EBay
> right
> now
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sgroup-bounces+coolcolj=optusnet.com.au(a)sgroup.ca
> [mailto:sgroup-bounces+coolcolj=optusnet.com.au@sgroup.ca] On Behalf Of
> Robbie Dude
> Sent: Saturday, 12 March 2011 12:09 PM
> To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
> Subject: [sgroup] Some luck
>
> Ok, went out and got some new media. Put it into my XP box ran the sdiskw
> prog and loaded up some system software on it. Got a monitor and hooked
> that
> up as well. Fired it up, popped in the disk and it seems to be working.
> Now... if I can just figure out how to sample on the thing. Looking at the
> manual it's in the utility section (utility button) question... will I
> have
> to load up the utility disk to do this? (I'm thinking yes) Also, it's not
> seeing any of my samples disks I have for the S-50. I woulds assume I have
> to use the convert function first. Will this convert the disk? or will it
> just copy it over to a new disk?
>
> Also, seems like it wants to use the mouse. Thought I saw in the manual
> that
> I can switch that off. (looking around right now for a mouse on the web)
>
> So it looks like I'm taking baby steps here. But... hopefully I'll be
> walking soon.. then running.
>
> Thanks for your help.
> Rob
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:00:58 +0200
> From: Colin Shapiro <musos(a)icon.co.za>
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Some luck
> To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
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>
> Hi Rob,
>
> If I recall correctly, you have the S-550.
> You should fetch the owner's manual here:
> http://media.rolandus.com/manuals/S-550_OM.pdf
>
> It will explain the whole sampling procedure as well as how to convert S50
> disks for use in the S550.
>
> Much easier and more thorough than a long e-mail here....
>
> Regards
> Colin
> _____________________________________
>
> On Mar 12, 2011, at 3:08, Robbie Dude wrote:
>
> > Ok, went out and got some new media. Put it into my XP box ran the sdiskw
> > prog and loaded up some system software on it. Got a monitor and hooked
> that
> > up as well. Fired it up, popped in the disk and it seems to be working.
> > Now... if I can just figure out how to sample on the thing. Looking at
> the
> > manual it's in the utility section (utility button) question... will I
> have
> > to load up the utility disk to do this? (I'm thinking yes) Also, it's not
> > seeing any of my samples disks I have for the S-50. I woulds assume I
> have
> > to use the convert function first. Will this convert the disk? or will it
> > just copy it over to a new disk?
> >
> > Also, seems like it wants to use the mouse. Thought I saw in the manual
> that
> > I can switch that off. (looking around right now for a mouse on the web)
> >
> > So it looks like I'm taking baby steps here. But... hopefully I'll be
> > walking soon.. then running.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> > Rob
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:03:33 -0500
> From: Bruce Tovsky <bruce(a)skeletonhome.com>
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Some luck
> To: sgroup sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
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>
> a couple of old roland sampling tips: after a lot of testing, i ended up
> not using the s550 sampling function that much. i got much better results
> sampling at a higher rate in an external app (lots of options for free out
> there) and downsampling and transferring the sample to the s550. (not as
> easy to do now, but still possible. i believe stefano daino still has
> dsp-quattro going on the mac that handles roland samples.) there's a well
> know trick to maximizing your sample memory: since the roland system breaks
> the samples into chunks of memory, to most efficiently use the memory you
> can chain samples together to fill the chunk and then use sample pointers to
> access the individual samples. i know this sounds confusing - i'm not
> explaining it well and it's been about 15 years since i last did it - but
> think of it like this: you've got 20 samples of a piano, instead of twenty
> different samples you have one long sample with twenty notes strung together
> one after the other. the rol
> and allows you to use sample start and end pointers when you're mapping,
> so you can "point" the notemap to just that section of the sample. if you
> read the manual you'll see the memory allocation limitations i mentioned. i
> was able to significantly increase my sample set using this trick.
> cheers
> b
>
> On Mar 11, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Robbie Dude wrote:
>
> > Ok, went out and got some new media. Put it into my XP box ran the sdiskw
> > prog and loaded up some system software on it. Got a monitor and hooked
> that
> > up as well. Fired it up, popped in the disk and it seems to be working.
> > Now... if I can just figure out how to sample on the thing. Looking at
> the
> > manual it's in the utility section (utility button) question... will I
> have
> > to load up the utility disk to do this? (I'm thinking yes) Also, it's not
> > seeing any of my samples disks I have for the S-50. I woulds assume I
> have
> > to use the convert function first. Will this convert the disk? or will it
> > just copy it over to a new disk?
> >
> > Also, seems like it wants to use the mouse. Thought I saw in the manual
> that
> > I can switch that off. (looking around right now for a mouse on the web)
> >
> > So it looks like I'm taking baby steps here. But... hopefully I'll be
> > walking soon.. then running.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> > Rob
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:43:34 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Photosynthesi <photosynthesi(a)yahoo.it>
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] My Roland S-550 song - oops, the link...
> To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
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>
> Heh he, well, thanks for the comparision with Depeche (i love'em).
> Actually, the melody is taken from an euro hit of the nineties titled
> "Hablame
> luna" by Basic Connection.
>
> I hope this list will continue to be so active...
>
> Bye :)
>
>
>
> ----- Messaggio originale -----
> Da: "marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com" <marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com>
> A: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
> Inviato: Ven 11 marzo 2011, 00:26:56
> Oggetto: Re: [sgroup] My Roland S-550 song - oops, the link...
>
> Nicely done. Cross of Depeche with Scitti Politti I thought
>
> I listened to it all the way through and with Florence and The Machine
> cued up thats saying something!! : )
>
> M
>
> ps great to see some list activity, I have four S760's going back into
> my rig very soon as soon as I can figure out all this SCSI ID mess.
>
> On Mar 10, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Photosynthesi wrote:
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvqR5-14ELs
> >
> > --- Gio 10/3/11, Photosynthesi <photosynthesi(a)yahoo.it> ha scritto:
> >
> >> Da: Photosynthesi <photosynthesi(a)yahoo.it>
> >> Oggetto: [sgroup] My Roland S-550 song
> >> A: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
> >> Data: Giovedě 10 marzo 2011, 10:50
> >> Hello all.
> >> I bought my Roland S-550 in 2008 on Ebay.
> >> Now I'd like to share with you a track I made in a few
> >> minutes using this sampler a few days ago.
> >> All patches and samples are from the S-50 system disk n.
> >> 56
> >> "Techno Set" (i converted it to a s550 diskette usig the
> >> convert function on the sampler).
> >> The S-550 has been sequenced via MIDI by FL Studio.
> >> It's a direct recording from the output of the sampler.
> >> No effects have been used.
> >> I had fun playing a hit of the nineties using sounds of
> >> the
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> >> Try to guess the song title :)
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Yeah
Ok, went out and got some new media. Put it into my XP box ran the sdiskw
prog and loaded up some system software on it. Got a monitor and hooked that
up as well. Fired it up, popped in the disk and it seems to be working.
Now... if I can just figure out how to sample on the thing. Looking at the
manual it's in the utility section (utility button) question... will I have
to load up the utility disk to do this? (I'm thinking yes) Also, it's not
seeing any of my samples disks I have for the S-50. I woulds assume I have
to use the convert function first. Will this convert the disk? or will it
just copy it over to a new disk?
Also, seems like it wants to use the mouse. Thought I saw in the manual that
I can switch that off. (looking around right now for a mouse on the web)
So it looks like I'm taking baby steps here. But... hopefully I'll be
walking soon.. then running.
Thanks for your help.
Rob
Hello all.
I bought my Roland S-550 in 2008 on Ebay.
Now I'd like to share with you a track I made in a few
minutes using this sampler a few days ago.
All patches and samples are from the S-50 system disk n. 56
"Techno Set" (i converted it to a s550 diskette usig the
convert function on the sampler).
The S-550 has been sequenced via MIDI by FL Studio.
It's a direct recording from the output of the sampler.
No effects have been used.
I had fun playing a hit of the nineties using sounds of the
eighties.
Try to guess the song title :)
Please, leave your comments!
Bye!
the tape thing on my PC isn't working. swdisk doesn't like it at all and
pops up an error when I try to write a .out file to it. Also, windows wants
to format it and it pops up and error as well. I'll check the win98 box and
see how it runs on that. I just talked with my brother, he has a box with a
TON (like 50) of my floppy's as well as 12 floppy drives. My fingers are
crossed one of those drives will work on one of my PC's (I kinda have a lot
of um. :) ) couple of linux boxes as well. I DO happen to have ( just
found them in my storage) disks that are for the S 550. I'll see if one of
those boot.
How ofter do the drives go out on the sampler? What makes them go out? wear?
broken drive belt? (like on the V50's and SY77's) I can hear the drive
turn, and do it's thing... it just keep giving me "disk load error" after
about 20~30 seconds.
Thanks again for the help.
And yes, I'd buy your setup (if the price was right. :) )
Rob
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> To: Bruce Tovsky <bruce(a)skeletonhome.com>
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> But be prepared for some nasty behavior if the S-550 ever finds out you've
> been fooling it. You may load up your favorite synth bass sample at your
> next big conservatory audition only to have the S-550 start playing Justin
> Beiber's latest pop opus. :)
>
> Welcome to the list, Robbie. Every once in a while the email lists
> dedicated to old synths and samplers come alive with new members and new
> content. Here's hoping this list will soon experience the same.
>
> Jesse
>
>
>
> From: Bruce Tovsky <bruce(a)skeletonhome.com>
> To: sgroup sgroup <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> Date: 03/08/2011 11:50 AM
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>
> ingo is correct - you need to "fool" the s-550 into thinking it is NOT a
> high density disk by covering the hole. then you'll be fine.
> b
>
> p.s. - i am selling my full blown s-550 rig: s-550 w/SCSI card, roland
> CD-ROM drive, Syquest drive, a ton of sample disks including three cd-roms
> of samples. includes roland mouse but no monitor. best offer. i'll be
> taking it to Rogue here in nyc soon so act now. ;-) i'd love to see
> someone who's really a fan to get it.
>
>
> On Mar 8, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Ingo Debus wrote:
>
> >
> > Am 08.03.2011 um 14:28 schrieb Robbie Dude:
> >
> >> I JUST got a used S 550. Course it
> >> only came with 1 disk (utility) I found your site and have downloaded
> the OS
> >> (tried a few of them) and I just can't seem to get it to load.
> >
> > The OS can be included on any disk containing samples. You should be
> able to boot the S-550 from the utility disk as well. Of course you can't
> boot from disks with the S-50 or S-330 OS on them.
> >
> >> I am using a 1.44 drive to make the floppy's.
> >
> > Maybe this is the problem? Are you using 1.44MB or 720kB floppies?
> > I remember that 1.44MB worked well with my S-330 (formatted to 720kB of
> course), but when creating them on a computer with a 1.44MB drive from a
> disk image I had to cover the small hole in the floppy (not the write
> protect hole, the other one) with tape.
> >
> > I also remember that often the S-330 booted from some floppies only
> after several attempts. If you happen to get the S-550 booted, get a bunch
> of floppies and format them/write the OS to them on the sampler itself.
> Maybe it's easier with floppies formatted on the same drive.
> >
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> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:47:34 -0600
> From: Garth Hjelte <garth(a)chickensys.com>
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Hello
> To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
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> At 10:38 AM 3/8/2011, you wrote:
>
> >ingo is correct - you need to "fool" the s-550 into thinking it is
> >NOT a high density disk by covering the hole. then you'll be fine.
>
> DON'T!
>
> A DS/HD floppy is of lower magnetic capacity then a DS/DD. If you
> cover the hole, the drive will certainly think it's a DS/DD and
> certainly write to it, but it's highly questionable if the disk will
> retain the information reliably.
>
> Just get some DS/DD floppies.
>
> Garth Hjelte
> Sampler User
>
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> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 13:20:42 -0500
> From: Bruce Tovsky <bruce(a)skeletonhome.com>
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> in my experience i never ever had such a problem. i do agree that you are
> taking a risk - you're messing around with something - but finding DS/DD
> disks isn't easy these days.
> ultimately with my setup i went to the syquest drive and copied all of my
> samples to those removeables.
> b
>
> On Mar 8, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Garth Hjelte wrote:
>
> > At 10:38 AM 3/8/2011, you wrote:
> >
> >> ingo is correct - you need to "fool" the s-550 into thinking it is NOT a
> high density disk by covering the hole. then you'll be fine.
> >
> > DON'T!
> >
> > A DS/HD floppy is of lower magnetic capacity then a DS/DD. If you cover
> the hole, the drive will certainly think it's a DS/DD and certainly write to
> it, but it's highly questionable if the disk will retain the information
> reliably.
> >
> > Just get some DS/DD floppies.
> >
> > Garth Hjelte
> > Sampler User
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> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:19:54 -0600
> From: Garth Hjelte <garth(a)chickensys.com>
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Hello
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> At 12:20 PM 3/8/2011, you wrote:
>
> >in my experience i never ever had such a problem.
>
> I know hundreds who lost lots of data this way. If you want to take
> the risk, it's a CLint Eastwood "do you feel lucky?"
>
> > i do agree that you are taking a risk - you're messing around with
> > something - but finding DS/DD disks isn't easy these days.
>
> No, it's easy. www.floppydisk.com
>
>
> Garth Hjelte
> Sampler User
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> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 15:29:12 -0500
> From: Bruce Tovsky <bruce(a)skeletonhome.com>
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> i've always been a pretty lucky guy. as i was getting ready to sell my s550
> recently (sob!) i tested several disks -- both sd & hd - and they all worked
> fine.
> and i'm glad there's now a place to find the disks! it definitely wasn't
> easy a decade ago.
> b
>
> On Mar 8, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Garth Hjelte wrote:
>
> > At 12:20 PM 3/8/2011, you wrote:
> >
> >> in my experience i never ever had such a problem.
> >
> > I know hundreds who lost lots of data this way. If you want to take the
> risk, it's a CLint Eastwood "do you feel lucky?"
> >
> >> i do agree that you are taking a risk - you're messing around with
> something - but finding DS/DD disks isn't easy these days.
> >
> > No, it's easy. www.floppydisk.com
> >
> >
> > Garth Hjelte
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> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 12:55:11 +1100
> From: "CoolColJ" <coolcolj(a)optusnet.com.au>
> Subject: [sgroup] MSX Mouse
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> Just wondering, if a specific model MSX mouse will work with an S750-S770
> or
> can any MSX mouse do the job?
>
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> If I think what the mouse is what it is it will destroy the circuit in
> the sampler.
>
> Serious - you need the Roland Mouse I recollect from memory at 4 o'
> clock at night after a gig , or perhaps a rewired non Roland - lets wait
> for the real experts on this list.
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> CoolColJ wrote:
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> or
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> The MSX mouse standard was created back in the late 80's and was popular
> with early Asian computer manufacturers. It never caught on and was pretty
> much dead by the mid 90's. Any MSX mouse will work with Roland's equipment
> without harm. They are fairly hard to find, and expensive. A scan of EBay
> this evening showed only 4 available ranging from $60 to $100.
>
> I believe that the mouse that Roland sold was OEM'ed from Panasonic.
>
> Good luck...
>
> > From: Sjaak de Vos <sjaakdevos(a)gmx.net>
> > Subject: Re: [sgroup] MSX Mouse
> > To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
> > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 9:00 PM
> > If I think what the mouse is what it
> > is it will destroy the circuit in
> > the sampler.
> >
> > Serious - you need the Roland Mouse I recollect from memory
> > at 4 o'
> > clock at night after a gig , or perhaps a rewired non
> > Roland - lets wait
> > for the real experts on this list.
> >
> > CoolColJ wrote:
> > > Just wondering, if a specific model MSX mouse will
> > work with an S750-S770 or
> > > can any MSX mouse do the job?
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Yeah
Hey guys ( and gals? ) My name is Robert, I JUST got a used S 550. Course it
only came with 1 disk (utility) I found your site and have downloaded the OS
(tried a few of them) and I just can't seem to get it to load. I keep
getting disk errors. (on the S 550) I've cracked up the box and took the
cover off the floppy drive and cleaned the head with a q-tip dipped in
alcohol and still nothing. I am using a 1.44 drive to make the floppy's.
Running Win XP. I do have a a win 98 box. I also have a S-50 in storage. I
have many old floppy's for the S-50 as well.
I godda say I've always loved Roland. The sounds they make are always nice,
rich and warm. I'm looking forward to getting this sampler back up and
running, but I fear I might need a new floppy drive. :(
I'm going to go ahead and get some new media (ordering online can't find
them locally anymore) and try that.
Any advice is welcome.
feel free to add me to facebook if you like as I have quite a few synth's
and post pix of them here and there. (www.facebook.com/rob.n.kristien or
search via email addy therodsiks(a)gmail.com
Thanks for your time,
Rob
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Yeah
Ingo, I will have to check my a80 when i get back home to houston to see if my aftertouch still works.
>>>>
I once owned an A80, but that's long ago so my memory is a little vague.
The A80 of course can send MIDI Program Change messages. AFAIR it cannot send Bank Select messages.
I used Program Change messages to make the S-760 load volumes from disk (ZIP drive in my case). This worked very well.
Does aftertouch still work on your A80? When I got mine back then, I had to replace the sensors. Polyphonic aftertouch is a great feature that not many keyboards offer. On the S-760 it can be used to control filter cutoff for instance.
Ingo
Does anyone have an A-80 set up to use with their S760? If so could you give me a little advice on the easiest way to use the two devices? I just got an A-80 and its been years since i've used my 760 and other midi gear and so I dont understand everything like I want to.
I'd like to be able to change s760 performances from the A80. Say i load in a volume and go to performance mode. All of the performances are on their own midi chan, or i can step through them with the mouse on the 1st chan. Can I somehow do that from the A80?
I'll be happy to take this off list since this is likely more to do with the A80.
-steve
Hello,
It may be a silly question, but after toying around with more recent gear &
knowing how to control that -
coming back to the S-330 & S-550 I can't seem to find how to let them
respond to MIDI-CC.
As it seems they're not really responding to many MIDI-CC numbers but it all
has to be done by System Exclusive, right ?
Is there for instance no simpler way on these machines to say control the
VCF(TVF)-cutoff etc in real-time ?
Or no way to control the settings of the multiple-stage Envelope Generators
in real-time ?
I hope I'm simply overseeing something, but fear I should dive more in the
System Exclusive topic...
Is that way of controlling also capable of 'zipperless' real-time control ?
Thanks ! & regards
Just wondering if it's possible to remove the floppy drive from an S-760 and to replace it with a USB drive like this?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Upgrade-3-floppy-drive-USB-flash-drive-/170549507064?…
It seems to be a drop in replacement for any floppy drive, but i could be wrong?
Only problem i can think of would be to get the Roland OS on a USB memory stick. When I did have an external "SCSI for Samplers CF-drive", if i put a Roland format CF card into my Mac, it'd complain it could not read the CF-card, and i was unable to read or write to the card. So following on from that, to get the Roland S-760 OS on to a USB stick, i could not do it via my Mac.
Thanks!
Ordered such a SCSI lead earlier. Hopefully the Zip drive and lead should arrive at the same time.
John
On 17 Oct 2010, at 19:38, Fabio Ullrich wrote:
>
> Hi John!
>
>> Totally overlooked the obvious other storage types such as Zip, Syquest eyc,
>> but i've now got a Zip 100 SCSI being sent out to me some time this week.
>> I'll also need a SCSI cable to link the S760 and Zip 100, but can someone
>> confirm if the Zip 100 uses a DB 25 female SCSI socket? So i'd need a DB 25
>> male to DB25 male to link the Roland and Zip 100?
>
> Yes, the SCSI-ZIP-Drives have 25pin female D-Sub Connectors, so a male-male
> cable (1 by 1 pinning) is OK!
>
> Ciao
> Peter (using 100 and 250MB ZIP Drives for the Roland samplers)
> http://come.to/synpro
>
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That's exactly what you need,
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> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Replace floppy drive on S-760 with USB/ CF
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> On 13 Oct 2010, at 22:12, Garth Hjelte wrote:
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> > Otherwise, I've always liked ZipDrives, they are compatible, ubiquitous,
> reliable, and flexible.
>
> Totally overlooked the obvious other storage types such as Zip, Syquest
> eyc, but i've now got a Zip 100 SCSI being sent out to me some time this
> week.
> I'll also need a SCSI cable to link the S760 and Zip 100, but can someone
> confirm if the Zip 100 uses a DB 25 female SCSI socket? So i'd need a DB 25
> male to DB25 male to link the Roland and Zip 100?
>
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Hi,
>Translator solves the problem. This facility is in the Free version,
>so if you don't want to purchase the program you don't have to.
Wonderful piece of software by the way,total respect,I
bet you are selling hundreds of licences for this these days,
I would purchase this myself if I hadn't got the sack recently.....
>Otherwise, I've always liked ZipDrives, they are
>compatible, ubiquitous, reliable, and flexible.
Can't agree with you more,why make things difficult,
Adaptec SCSI card,Zip drive,works with any old sampler
and PC
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
I am selling my monitor since my S-750 died and I have yet to replace it. I am located in Florida and I am asking $25 + shipping, or local pickup would be great.
This is a magnavox re-branded monitor with a silver roland strip across the front. It works as both an RGB or monochrome.
Kevin
Hi,Colin,
Thanks for the advice,and don't worry I won't be doing that!!
Jason
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> From: Jason Adkins <jason_ralf808(a)tiscali.co.uk>
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> Hi,
>
> I have a white MU-1 which I got with the broken S550,which I am now
> using with an S330,it worked perfectly,but my god did it need cleaning
> cosmetically,it was a meths job.......
> Yours looks nice though,wouldn't be surprised if that went for £70+
> Stupid thing is,I actually prefer using the S330 without the mouse
> mostly lol
> Anyway good luck in your sale
>
> Jason
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>> Subject: [sgroup] Roland MU-1 mouse & S330 For Sale
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>> Hi,
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>> I have listed an S330 sampler and an MU-1 mouse on ebay, if anyone is
>> interested the listings can be viewed on the following links:
>>
>>
>> Roland S330 item number 170519316943
>> (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170519316943&rvr_id=&m…
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> From: Jason Adkins <jason_ralf808(a)tiscali.co.uk>
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> Hi everyone,
>
> This has probably been said before but as the MU-1 is an MSX
> mouse,would a mouse for the CX5M,CX5MII/CX7M work? Or anyother MSX
> mouse?
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> The Roland mouse for the S330/S550 was *NOT* a normal mouse at all.
>
> I have an S550 and burnt out a circuit board many years ago when I
> plugged in a standard Microsoft mouse.
>
> Though the plug looks the same, the pin config is different. Do NOT
> plug any non-Roland mouse into your sampler.
>
> __________________________________________________
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>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> This has probably been said before but as the MU-1 is an MSX
>> mouse,would a mouse for the CX5M,CX5MII/CX7M work? Or anyother MSX
>> mouse?
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Hi,
I have a white MU-1 which I got with the broken S550,which I am now
using with an S330,it worked perfectly,but my god did it need cleaning
cosmetically,it was a meths job.......
Yours looks nice though,wouldn't be surprised if that went for £70+
Stupid thing is,I actually prefer using the S330 without the mouse
mostly lol
Anyway good luck in your sale
Jason
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> Hi,
>
> I have listed an S330 sampler and an MU-1 mouse on ebay, if anyone is
> interested the listings can be viewed on the following links:
>
>
> Roland S330 item number 170519316943
> (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170519316943&rvr_id=&m…
> )
>
> Roland MU-1 item number 170519317364
> (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170519317364&rvr_id=&m…
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I have both the Roland Library Sampler (the sample CD that has a variety of examples from the Library) as well as the Drums and Cymbals CD. I've been trying to use the analog drum samples (Tr-606, etc.) and on all of them I have the same problem with the hi-hat samples acting wierd: the sound seems to pan left/right randomly, and sometime drops out completely or with very low volume/velocity. I checked the pan settings and they are set to center. Is there some deeper parameter that makes it do this intentionally? I want a pure, clean centered hi-hat (this happens on both open and closed..
-jeff (myrios)
Hi all,
This is my first post to the group.
I have a Roland S-760 that I've been using for a long time (since
1996). Upgraded it with 32Mbytes of RAM, 500MB SCSI hard disk and a
SCSI CD-ROM drive.
It worked wonderfully for many years until I had to travel to Europe
in 2006. I had to live there for nearly a year. After I came back to
Brazil my studio equipment have been turned off during all this time.
I tried to turn on my S-760, it loaded the system from the hard disk
(countdown to zero) and then it rebooted again. And the process
repeated endlessly. I thought it could be a problem of the hard disk
then I tried from the floppy drive. Same problem. I formatted a new
floppy and wrote the system (version 2.24) and still had the same
problem. I gave up and left the unit untouched.
Recently I'm planning to put my hardware setup up again and I really
miss the S-760 sound / programability. I tried booting it up again and
had the same problem. Tried everything: removing the RAM modules,
booting from floppy, hard-disk... same problem: it keeps booting up
endlessly; one day I left it booting this way until it froze with the
screen similar to the parameters that appears when you boot up with
MODE pressed. Then I thought the problem could be of the S-760 EEPROM.
Is there any way I could check this out or get a new eeprom? In Brazil
the chances are really remote of finding it, I sent this unit to a
technicas assistance without success.
I am looking forward for any ideas and thank you all in advance for
your patience and interest.
My best regards,
Michael de Oliveira Nicassio [XRS]
michael(a)xrsland.com
http://www.xrsland.comhttp://www.tupybrasil.com
f: +55 61 8154 4886
Cx Postal 2155
Brasilia / DF
70343-970
Hello all,
i am a new roland user and i have a problem, maybe someone can help...
i recently bought an used S-10; unfortunately when i take a sample i will only get 14 semitones higher notes (then it plays the correct note but one octave lower...) and not 21 as indicated on the manual.
this is annoying because also when playing existing samples i get "lower octave" notes for the last 3 to 4 keys at the end of the keyboard....
any idea about what could be broken?
thanks in advance for any help and long live roland :)
Gian
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At 5/11/2010 03:39 PM, jsegovia(a)mindspring.com wrote:
>Right, but it's very easy to connect an external hard drive to the S-760.
s750 is exactly the same. SCSI plug on the back.
Dennis <db(a)skylab2000.com>
Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
I wanted the same thing, but I ended up removing the floppy drive and
installing an internal SCSI zip 100MB drive in it's place. NOTE: Before
attempting the procedure below be sure to boot from an S-750 floppy disk
and install the S-750 OS onto a blank ZIP disk BEFORE you remove the
floppy drive or you won't be able to boot the S-750 from the zip drive.
I routed a 25 pin SCSI cable from the SCSI connection on the back of the
S-750 into the inside of the S-750. Depending on how precious your S-750
is to you, you can cut a notch in the enclosure on the top to allow for
the cable, or just do like I did and screw the S-750's enclosure down over
the cable. That bent the tin enclosure a little but it wasn't visible from
the front. I then scavenged a cable from an old SCSI hard drive enclosure
that had a 50 pin SCSI connector for a SCSI drive on one end, and the 25
pin SCSI connector on the other and connected up the zip drive. I also
used the power connector for the floppy drive to power the zip drive.
Remember to set the SCSI ID on the zip drive accordingly to avoid
conflicts. The cabling looked like hell from the back, but it all worked.
Andy
At 5/11/2010 07:58 AM, t'byte wrote:
Hi everybody,
I read that the S-750 was just basically an S-770 with lesser A/D
converters and no internal hard drive. Wondering if I could just add an
internal hard drive to my S-750, I opened it up yesterday. Couldn't find
any place for a hard drive, though. Also it looked like there was a place
on the S-750 mainboard for a 50-pin internal SCSI connector, without any
connector soldered on. So I guess there is also no actual fixture in the
S-750 for the hard drive to go, eh?
I didn't fully disassemble the thing, but in peeking around, I did see
that the lower board (with the audio outputs on it) does say "S-770" on
the PCB. The upper board says S-750 though.
Thanks
Tim
The s760 doesn't have a hard drive either, so will be the same issue.
At 5/11/2010 01:03 PM, jsegovia(a)mindspring.com wrote:
>I can't help you with the technical questions, but at this point with
>little technical help available from Roland and with so many S-760s
>available for so little money, why not just spring for the S-760? There
>are a couple on ebay right now for $125-169. I paid a lot more for mine
>seven or eight years ago.
Dennis <db(a)skylab2000.com>
Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
Hi everybody,
I read that the S-750 was just basically an S-770 with lesser A/D
converters and no internal hard drive. Wondering if I could just add an
internal hard drive to my S-750, I opened it up yesterday. Couldn't find
any place for a hard drive, though. Also it looked like there was a place
on the S-750 mainboard for a 50-pin internal SCSI connector, without any
connector soldered on. So I guess there is also no actual fixture in the
S-750 for the hard drive to go, eh?
I didn't fully disassemble the thing, but in peeking around, I did see
that the lower board (with the audio outputs on it) does say "S-770" on
the PCB. The upper board says S-750 though.
Thanks
Tim
| How old is the SGROUP now? 20 years?
My archives start with a message from Neil Herzinger on 23 Feb 90.
So David - I think your guess of 20 years is pretty close.
Cheers!
John
Hi all,
Personally I don't think Roland have done anything very interesting
for a number of years,living off their heritage.
There are only so many ways you can repackage the same stuff.
Jason
I know this ML is for the S-series Roland samplers, but thought this
may be of interest to anyone who, like me, is using an S-760 live and
has been wishing for an affordable Roland synth/sampler workstation.
The Roland Juno-G is now being sold with version 2.0 of the Juno-G
software and this upgrade now offers sampling features that were
previously unavailable. And for current Juno-G users the update is
available free to download (see Downloads page at link below). So if
like me, you were looking for a single keyboard to use live that can
trigger samples instead of hauling a controller/S-760 rack combo
around then take a look at the Juno-G v2.0.
http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=756&ParentId=…
Andy
At 03:32 AM 4/16/2010, you wrote:
>Did anyone convert the original library for the s-series to a
>digital format already, lets say Halion?
I did most of it, although I mainly did it to other more popular
software samplers like Kontakt and EXS and Giga., using Translator
www.chickensys.com
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
At 03:30 AM 4/16/2010, you wrote:
>I'm missing the mv8000/mv8800 in the sampling discussion. I have no
>experience with these machines, but they carry the Roland name.
Strangely the MV is more the successor, structurally speaking, to the
S-7x/XV-5080 then the Fantom is.
The big problem with the Fantom (and Juno-G) is that you have no
pitch, volume, or pan control on the SAMPLE level. You have the
ability to form a "Multisample", which is just a series of samples
mapped out horizontally across 128 MIDI notes. A Patch has 4 "Tones",
and a Multisample can be assigned to that Tone and that Tone gives it
any pitch, volume, and pan properties - and any property, for that matter.
Contrast that to the S-7x model, which you have 88 MIDI Notes that
can have their own set of envelopes, LFO's, Filters, shared by up to
4 (albeit mono) samples, but at least each sample reference has it's
own pitch, volume, and pan - AND velocity range. Although the Fantom
and S-7x only can have 4 velocity splits maximum, the way the S-7x
does it is more versatile with the other parameters.
Although you may have more flexibility using the Fantom/Juno Rhythm
Kits, it seems kludgy to use a structure designed for percussion to
simulate chromatic instruments.
We can all agree that software eclipsed hardware for price and
convenience reasons, it's also true that hardware stagnated
feature-wise. Why have we never seen a non-PC-based disk-streaming
structure-unlimited hardware sampler, even before software made it's
mark? Right now the open-system things on the
Motif/Fusion/Triton/M3/Fantom (and Kurzweil) are things to compliment
it's already appealing internally voiced ROM sets, so I'm not complaining.
What I'd like to see would be 1) Sample Instrument remote control
from a computer (via USB or Ethernet) and 2) unlimited structures and
not this "only 4 samples per key" and basic control not on the sample
level stuff.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your help but I never did manage to get the S-550
working so I put it on ebay for a starting price of £15,I only had the
one bidder so he got it for that.It was a guy from Roland UK who
reckoned if he couldn't get it going,no one could!
Anyway too cut a long story short it was harder than he thought so
Roland UK are now down to just the
4 S-550 main boards.........I will say no more! I personally think the
Intel CPU may have gone south,I
had the same flashing lights behaviour with a SCI Sixtrak and in the
end I replaced its Z80 cpu,which was socketed and it worked
perfectly,although I could be wrong,I have a smattering of electronics
knowledge but mainly I do it by deduction....lol
Anyway as I still have the S-550 library and mouse I decided to buy a
S-330 off ebay for £65 inc postage,its an american model so it needs a
step down transformer and also a good clean up but it seems to work
perfectly so all in all it ended up good,OK I only have half the ram
but its a slightly more modern machine and sounds the same so the
filters on it will be put to good use|
Jason
I have both a Roland branded VGA monitor for the S series. I also have a Roland mouse also. I paid $50 for each let me know if there is any interest offline. at xirin6(a)yahoo.com I am located in Florida and I will ship if buyer pays shipping.
yes, i remember well about that 12-bit optimization. there was a great
debate when the 16-bit samplers came out, particularly in the Hip Hop
community, that the 12-bit stuff was way "meatier" than the 16-bit
stuff. that's why the sp1200 drum machine continued to be so popular,
way past its obsolescence. though i haven't fired it up in years i
can't quite bring myself to lose my s550 - even though Kontakt (the
software sampler i use now) can load my old s550 disks.
cheers
b
On Mar 22, 2010, at 12:21 PM, jsegovia(a)mindspring.com wrote:
> Yes, it can. I don't know if the 760 sounds as good with the 550
> samples as the 550 does since the 550 has this interpolated sound
> thing going on that makes the 12-bit samples sound much better or at
> least brighter. But I also have lots of samples for the 760 that
> sound great so I'd like to be able to load the 760 samples into the
> 760 and still use the 550. I don't have all that many synth modules
> so it would be nice to be able to use both the Roland samplers.
>
> Jesse
>
>
>
> From: Bruce Tovsky <bruce(a)skeletonhome.com>
> To: jsegovia(a)mindspring.com
> Date: 03/22/2010 12:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] monitor for s series
>
>
>
> hi jesse
> i was always under the impression that the 760 could load 550 samples
> directly. am i wrong?
> cheers
> b
>
> On Mar 22, 2010, at 11:52 AM, jsegovia(a)mindspring.com wrote:
>
> > I see now that it's color. Since you'd use the RCA jacks with the
> 760
> > would you get color output?
> >
> > I've got both the Roland S-550 and S-760 samplers and yes, the 760
> > sounds
> > much better than the 550 but I have so many samples for the 550 I
> > always
> > thought it would be nice to be able to use them both. I wanted to
> > get a
> > switcher box so I could switch between the 550 and the 760 with my
> CGA
> > monitor but I never found a switcher box that would work with the
> > proprietary Roland cable connection. I figured the easiest thing is
> > to
> > find another Roland cable and keep it hooked up to my other sampler
> > and
> > then manually connect the cable to the sampler I want to use at that
> > moment, but I never managed to find another Roland cable.
> >
> > Jesse
> >
> >
> >
> > From: jsegovia(a)mindspring.com
> > To: dennis barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > Cc: "sgroup(a)sgroup.ca" <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> > Date: 03/22/2010 11:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: [sgroup] monitor for s series
> > Sent by: sgroup-bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com(a)sgroup.ca
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the heads-up. Is this color? And what connection would
> > work
> > with the 760?
> >
> > Jesse
> >
> >
> >
> > From: dennis barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > To: "sgroup(a)sgroup.ca" <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca>
> > Date: 03/22/2010 10:17 AM
> > Subject: [sgroup] monitor for s series
> > Sent by: sgroup-bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com(a)sgroup.ca
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15000
> >
> > Dennis <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> > Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
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At 3/22/2010 08:52 AM, jsegovia(a)mindspring.com wrote:
>I see now that it's color. Since you'd use the RCA jacks with the
>760 would you get color output?
As far as I recall, s760 composite video output is color.
Dennis <db(a)skylab2000.com>
Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
Yes,there could be a problem with the panel as when I received the S550
the volume knob had come off,indicating it may have taken a hit on the
front
in the post,although the panel does occasionally light up the odd
character sometimes
when its turned on.I have a compatible composite monitor but all I get
is a
blank screen,I also have the original system disks in the wallet and a
mouse.
Also shouldn't the floppy drive click until it gets a disk? as I have
a DJ-70 and
that does until it gets a floppy.
Hi there
First, be aware that you can't just hit "reply" with this group - it
goes to the original sender only.
You need to send posts to:
sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
Re your question:
Yes, you should have a MIDI keyboard or sequencer program attached
(or both) in order to trigger the samples in each patch.
---------------------------------------------
>He's right It's almost Impossible to use without a monitor you can't
>see what your doing. I have a question myself. I don't know if you
>have the answer ! I just wanted to know if you have to hook up the
>samplier to midi to use sound samples. I've been working at this for
>some time. But to no avail as of yet. Help somepody
Hello everyone,this is my first post so please bear with me.I
purchased a S550
from ebay a couple of weeks ago with library and mouse.Unfortunatly
when I turned it on
all it does is flash all of its LEDs constantly,the floppy light is
permantly on and the display is blank.
Has anybody got any idea what is wrong with it,someone suggested the
RAM may have become unseated
but I opened it up and everything looks soldered to the
motherboard.Any help will be greatly
appreciated as this is most frustrating! Thanks,Jason
Hi All,
Aside from my S-760 I also have a Roland PMA-5, but I'd really like to get a copy of the Macintosh application that allows conversion of GM files to the PMA format (and I presume there may be a driver that goes with it?)
Does anyone have this program and driver? Needless to say, I've asked Roland and they refuse to put it on their download page because it will only run under Mac OS 7 (which I still use on my old laptops for sequencing.)
While we're on the topic, I'm also looking for Master Tracks Pro version 6.0 for Mac.
Jeff
To whom it may concern, Yes I have DJ, I got this alias trying to get information on the s series samples I want to make some disk for them but I am having some problems SDisk won't read or write anything in the old XP box I'm using also I don't understand how to format the disk to a roland sample disk what are the specifications to make a roland sample disk I don't understand. If someone could please help me with this I would be ever so grateful.Thank You ,
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Hi Folks,
i have two Chips to offer, which could be used to update a W30 to KW30.
I have tested the Chips with my own W30, and the are working ok.
To Update a W30, there is just one Chip needed, so two W30 Users can have the Update for their W30 :-)
The Price is 20 Euros for one Chip, plus shipping from Germany. Inside Germany this will be 3,90 euros.
If desired, we can do the transaction via Ebay / Paypal.
Yours sincerely,
Oliver from Germany
Hello @ all,
thank you for the Help, i recieved a Mail from tim, who suggests, if the cable will be plugged in in the right way.
So, the cabels (MIDI In / OUT ; WamiRack and Synths) working well with EMU Morpheus and Roland U220, and the S760 is plugged in the same way. This could not be the reason.
Thank you Ingo for the Idea with MIDI-Monitor in S760, that is a point i will look at on Weekend, there will be a little time to try this.
Have a nice Weekend,
Oliver from Germany
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> Am 02.12.2009 um 11:22 schrieb Oliver Löbbert:
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> > Just the S760 has got the prob, that it will not communicate with
> > Sounddiver.
> > That means: It is not found with the "Scanning"-Function. When i
> > setup this "Manually", then S760 has a little "flashing" with the
> > MIDI-LED, but Sounddiver told me "Machine is not Plugged / is not
> > found".
> > Device-ID is checked, SysexData will be recognized, MIDI-Chanel is
> > checked, cable is ok.
> >
> > Has anybody an Idea, how to get S760 running with Sounddiver? Have
> > i forgot to look in a specialy Parameter in S760 or Sounddiver?
>
> Uh, this is ages ago...
>
> I think Scan never worked with the S-760. Also, the S-760 doesn't
> communicate via Sysex messages in some modes (disk mode for
> instance). Try performance mode.
>
> The S-760 has a built-in MIDI monitor, so you can see if the request
> messages are received at all.
>
> Ingo
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Hello @ all,
thank you for your help, i have found why my import was not succesfull from w30 to s760, so now it is working like i expected it :-)
So now here is my question regarding Sounddiver (V3.054) and S760 (V 2.24) communication:
My Hardware-config is like this:
PC (WinXP), EgoSys WamiRack24, S760.
Sounddiver is working well under XP, and two other Synths (Emu Morpheus / Roland U220) are running good with Sounddiver/WamiRack24.
Just the S760 has got the prob, that it will not communicate with Sounddiver.
That means: It is not found with the "Scanning"-Function. When i setup this "Manually", then S760 has a little "flashing" with the MIDI-LED, but Sounddiver told me "Machine is not Plugged / is not found".
Device-ID is checked, SysexData will be recognized, MIDI-Chanel is checked, cable is ok.
Has anybody an Idea, how to get S760 running with Sounddiver? Have i forgot to look in a specialy Parameter in S760 or Sounddiver?
Thank you for yor Help,
Oliver from Germany
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> From: werbemuelleimer(a)gmx.net
> Subject: [sgroup] Import w30 disks into a S760, compatiblity
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> Hi Folks,
>
> I pushed up my machinepark with a S760 sampler, with 32mb and OP-760,
> running OS V2.24
>
> My old W30 goes now in retirement pension.
>
> So my question goes to the following: I have read something about to
> import W30 Disks into S760.
>
> Will this functionality only supports the Waves of W30, or is it possible
> to import the completely Patches with all parameters?
>
> Other Question goes to the SCSII Drive:
>
> I have a 2160 MB Drive. Is there a chance, to use the rest of the MBs, or
> is it just the way, to use the first 600 MB and no else?
>
> Thanx for your comments,
>
> with regards
> Oliver from germany
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:04:56 -0800
> From: dennis barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Import w30 disks into a S760, compatiblity
> To: werbemuelleimer(a)gmx.net, sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
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>
>
> First 600mb only.
> Maybe you could create another volume on it somehow - not sure - but
> each is only 600mb
>
>
>
> At 11/22/2009 02:50 PM, werbemuelleimer(a)gmx.net wrote:
> >Hi Folks,
> >
> >I pushed up my machinepark with a S760 sampler, with 32mb and
> >OP-760, running OS V2.24
> >
> >My old W30 goes now in retirement pension.
> >
> >So my question goes to the following: I have read something about to
> >import W30 Disks into S760.
> >
> >Will this functionality only supports the Waves of W30, or is it
> >possible to import the completely Patches with all parameters?
> >
> >Other Question goes to the SCSII Drive:
> >
> >I have a 2160 MB Drive. Is there a chance, to use the rest of the
> >MBs, or is it just the way, to use the first 600 MB and no else?
> >
> >Thanx for your comments,
> >
> >with regards
> >Oliver from germany
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> Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
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> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:58:45 +0100
> From: Ingo Debus <igg.debus(a)t-online.de>
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Import w30 disks into a S760, compatiblity
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> Am 22.11.2009 um 23:50 schrieb werbemuelleimer(a)gmx.net:
>
> > So my question goes to the following: I have read something about
> > to import W30 Disks into S760.
> >
> > Will this functionality only supports the Waves of W30, or is it
> > possible to import the completely Patches with all parameters?
>
> I can only speak for S-330, but I guess w30 is pretty much the same.
> Yes, it does import the parameters too. Here's a posting of mine on
> this group about ten years ago :-)
>
> > It can read S-550, S-330 and W-30 disks, that's why I got my S-760
> > back
> > then (had some boxes full of those disks). But IMHO it doesn't this
> > job
> > too well: if there are two Tones layered in a S-330 Patch, *two* S-760
> > Patches are created. And, since the S-760 has no Sub-Tones, each
> > Sub-Tone is converted into a real Sample/Partial. If the Start/Loop/
> > End
> > points of the Original Tone and Sub-Tone are the same, this could be
> > done more memory-efficiently.
> > Don't know about S-50 disks, the User's Manual doesn't mention it. But
> > with a S-330 or S-550 these disks can be converted to S-330/S-550
> > format. Wasn't there a DOS program that does this too?
>
> Also note that the S-330 has more flexible envelopes than the S-760.
> Keep your W30 at least until you have all your disks converted, so if
> in doubt you can compare.
>
> Ingo
>
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Hi Folks,
I pushed up my machinepark with a S760 sampler, with 32mb and OP-760, running OS V2.24
My old W30 goes now in retirement pension.
So my question goes to the following: I have read something about to import W30 Disks into S760.
Will this functionality only supports the Waves of W30, or is it possible to import the completely Patches with all parameters?
Other Question goes to the SCSII Drive:
I have a 2160 MB Drive. Is there a chance, to use the rest of the MBs, or is it just the way, to use the first 600 MB and no else?
Thanx for your comments,
with regards
Oliver from germany
I have an S-760 and I want to set up partials/patches/performances on my PC and transfer it all to the sampler via Zip100. I have downloaded Translator Free, in the hopes of translating .sf2's to Roland .out files (or whatever it needs to be).
I know Translator's S-7xx support has been a mythical unicorn, so does it still not work? If not, is there any way to setup a patch/performance/etc.. on the computer (perhaps as a .sf2) and translate any other way?
I love the sound of the sampler, but sheesh! PLEASE NOTE: I'm not sure if I still get sgroup group emails, so please respond to dec(a)rocketmail.com....
tia,
dh
exactly :) thats why i bought the sampler in the first place
its the s-330 i have. but i cant find the sound on the disk anyway.
found some others but not that one, maby im stupid :p
just found S330_guide_book.pdf
maby that will help me locate the sound,
maby im doing something wrong when loading or in the config
or something =p
have a nice day
/daniel
> System Disk nr-2 contains some
> orchestral sound, and one called "Ending 1" is that famous "James Brown Is
> Dead" choir sound :)
> Which system disks are you referring to? The ones from S-330 or
> S-550? They are all different AFAIK.
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:01:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Olle Ollesson <gulskagg(a)yahoo.se>
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Hello,
om looking for a sound named "ending 1" that supposed to be on
system disk 2, i didnt have it so i bought it on ebay
but didnt find it there, anyone know if it should be there
or i have the wrong system disk, system disk multipatch
is the one i got,
have a nice day :)
/ daniel
System Disk nr-2 contains some
orchestral sound, and one called "Ending 1" is that famous "James Brown Is
Dead" choir sound :)
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:16:15 +0200
From: Ingo Debus <igg.debus(a)t-online.de>
Subject: Re: [sgroup] Ending on System Disk nr2
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Am 19.09.2009 um 19:01 schrieb Olle Ollesson:
> om looking for a sound named "ending 1" that supposed to be on
> system disk 2, i didnt have it so i bought it on ebay
> but didnt find it there, anyone know if it should be there
> or i have the wrong system disk, system disk multipatch
> is the one i got,
Which system disks are you referring to? The ones from S-330 or
S-550? They are all different AFAIK.
Ingo
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Hello,
om looking for a sound named "ending 1" that supposed to be on
system disk 2, i didnt have it so i bought it on ebay
but didnt find it there, anyone know if it should be there
or i have the wrong system disk, system disk multipatch
is the one i got,
have a nice day :)
/ daniel
System Disk nr-2 contains some
orchestral sound, and one called "Ending 1" is that famous "James Brown Is
Dead" choir sound :)
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Special thanks to Dennis Barton for helping us out wit the S760 boot
discs we need. It will be nice to get back to hardware sampling again.
If anyone still has any 80's Fairlight type samples for the S760
please let us know.
M
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 8/6/2009 10:00 AM, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am sick of soft samplers and hope to resurrect 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> S760's I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hi there,
Can anyone help me out with some info on the W-30 or have i joined the wrong
group? If I am in the wrong place does anyone know of a good W-30 group I
might be able to get some info please?
Cheers!
Damian.
@ scott for message number 2
The sounds on the mp3 are very close to the ones you can hear on the extended version of depeche mode "people are people" in the beginning.
I think it is an Emulator II, as you can verify by watching this video on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDxOhnL7pjs
the first sounds you hear in this video are the same of your mp3...
Bye!
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:00:11 -0400
From: marais.de.cygnes(a)gmail.com
Subject: [sgroup] S760 Help
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Hello All,
I am sick of soft samplers and hope to resurrect 2 S760's I had in the
attic.
I need some help,
Would anyone be able to make me to boot discs ? I have lost mine and
do not think i could make them with my macbook form any date images.
Also, would anyone have any good Fairlight breathy voices and other
Fairlight sounds they wish to share on disc or cdr ?
I would of course pay for both services above.
Please contact me off-list.
Thank you,
Marais
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:57:52 -0700
From: "Scott" <scott(a)morganstudios.com>
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http://morganstudios.com/WhatIsThis.mp3
Anyone know what library that came from?
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hello I have read that when an improper mouse has been plugged in that it can cause the mouse port on the Roland SXXX to fail or no longer work properly. Is there an easy way to fix this issue ?
Hello All,
I am sick of soft samplers and hope to resurrect 2 S760's I had in the
attic.
I need some help,
Would anyone be able to make me to boot discs ? I have lost mine and
do not think i could make them with my macbook form any date images.
Also, would anyone have any good Fairlight breathy voices and other
Fairlight sounds they wish to share on disc or cdr ?
I would of course pay for both services above.
Please contact me off-list.
Thank you,
Marais
Please contact me at xirin6(a)yahoo.com if interested.
I have a working S750 for sale cheap $25.00 takes it. The S750 needs a replacement backlight but it can be viewed in dim light now or with a monitor. This one appears to only have 2 megs installed. I am located in Florida 33701 if anyone is interested.
PS I still have a 330 that needs a drive available for free + the cost of shipping if anyone is interested.
Kevin Kelley
I've posted this up on the yahoo group, but i'll run it again here.....
I've contacted a tech with regards to wiring up a lead for my S760 to
come out
from to RGB socket and then to go to a SCART socket.....
This is all really above my head, but my tech is asking questions with
regards
to SYNC lines..... as i said it means nothing to me, but i did show
them the
S760 monitor page in my manual, and also the very useful S760 webpage-
monitor
link.... http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/clouzeau/s760/monitor.htm
My tech is asking:
"The main question would be, what to do about the VSYNC and HSYNC lines
with regards to SCART. It expects a combined composite sync.
Really it's just the working pinouts that we need.
I've had a look on that S760 monitor page, but there's no definite
information
regarding SCART. TTL is also 5v digital. SCART is 1v p2p."
This means nothing to me.... but can someone please help out if they
know the
info needed?
Its just to wire an RGB lead to SCART socket for the S760..
Hello List,
I just recently joined, and appreciate the presence of this list and the
archives so much.
I started into the Roland sampler world with a 2nd-hand S-750 two years
ago. Later I picked up an S-760. Last week I found a DJ-70mkii.
If anyone can help me get the operating system upgraded on the DJ-70mkii,
I would be very grateful. I saw on the net that the DJ-70 could boot from
an updated operating system if you had the proper boot floppy in the drive
on power-up. I can't find any such floppy anywhere. Haven't called
Roland US to see if they have the EPROMs in stock still, would that be
worth a shot? I currently have v1.00 of the OS, and it seems like it can
read Zip and Jaz drives fine, but I'm kinda scared of getting too
comfortable and then losing some work.
Thanks
Tim
Hi everyone,
I've recently purchased an old roland S-10 sampler and found that it's
rom version it's 1.07. It seems not to support sysex so I really need to
upgrade it to a newer version.
Do you guys know where can I find either:
1) EPROM upgrade to purchase
2) EPROM binary files of the operating system of the S-10, for me to
burn a new eprom?
Thanks in advance,
Hello!
I have ordered the SCSI upgrade for my W-30. Any suggestions on where to
source the right type of external scsi cdrom unit and external scsi hard
drive that will work with the W-30?
Cheers!
Damian.
Hi Peter,
where can i find the Schematic? On your webseite?
Greetz
Oliver
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> Hi John!
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> I made a schematic that should work as S760 to SCART Interface.
> If you try it out please let us know if it works!
>
> Ciao
> Peter
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I have a s-330 that I had removed the drive from for another this unit is taken apart and I will put it back together somewhat if needed but if you need parts everything worked 100% before I took out the drive. Free to a good home. My zip code is 33701 buyer only needs to pay for shipping.
Kevin Kelley
p.s. I also have the systems disk.
I am curious if one might be able to install a zip drive, or compact flash type reader/writer into the S-550.
Has anyone tried to install anything other than the standard floppy drive into a S-550, might it be possible?
Also, anyone know about the sequencer software, and dongle for the S-series units. I believe they are labeled for use with their intended sampler model, but could, and or is the software, and dongles interchangeable with other models?
Any insight is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Dave
Hello, anyone have a line on where I can get a new belt? I attached a pic of the Quick Disk drive removed from the synth. You can see it wraps around the small brass gear to the large plastic gear. I'm assuming any belt will do as long as its a "belt" and not a rubber band and its the correct tension and length. If anyone has any info where I can get one or two or three, that would be great! Thank you.
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> Also, anyone know about the sequencer software, and dongle for the S-series
> units. I believe they are labeled for use with their intended sampler model,
> but could, and or is the software, and dongles interchangeable with other
> models?
The sequencer package comes in two models: SYS-333 and SYS-553. That is
both software and dongle are model specific. You can't actually use SYS-333
with an S-550 sampler.
I learned this the hard way. I bought the SYS-333 on eBay and tried to use
the dongle with a copy of 553 software. All I got is an error message
stating incorect dongle.
The sequencer package is a fine piece of software. It allows you to create
a sequence and embed sample within it. You can then share your sequence
disks with other S-sampler owners. The dongle is only needed for write
operations, not for reading.
Hope that helps,
Jean-Robert
Hello, wondering if anyone is interested.
Roland S-10 sampling
keyboard with hard case. Power cord, manual, 55 Roland/Maxell Quick
Disks. Pristine condition & works perfectly. Make me an offer, no
low-balling. Hardshell case alone is expensive to buy! I put note
stickers on the keys, they can be removed easily. Pick-up is preferred,
but delivery or meeting somewhere is possible in Toronto. Its quite
heavy. Check out this article:
http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/s10.php
Let me know if you want more info and/or detailed high-res pics.
Thank you.
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Have a look here:
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if you're interested.
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John
(sgroup guy)
Hello all,
I thought it should be possible to duplicate my sample CD-ROMs in
Roland S-760 format using the Apple OSX disk utility. But when I try
to create a disk image file from any of my CD-ROMs the disk utility
says "read/write error" after reading the CD-ROM. It does work with a
CD-ROM in Akai S-1000 format though.
I remember I could duplicate those CD-ROMs back in the OS 9 days,
using Adaptec Toast. But my OS9 computer and its CD burner quit
working a long time ago.
Any other possibilities, preferrably using an Apple computer?
Ingo
At 06:58 AM 4/13/2009, you wrote:
> > > There are rumors of sucessful internal SCSI ZIP drives, etc
> being installed to replace the floppy drive on the S-760.
> > >
> > > Is this true? Are there details anywhere of the installation?
> > ... but why?... if your floppy isn't working just make the
> default boot drive the Zip attached to the SCSi buss.
>For the simple reason of keeping everything compact in a one rack
>unit. Who wants jaz drives and cd-rom drives and cables and power
>supplies everywhere?
I hadn't heard these rumors but since I developed some Internal Kits
of other samplers I thought I'd look inside a S-760.
2 problems:
There is no direct way (unless you are a ace solderer and really know
what you are doing) to get the SCSI buss, since the output DB-25 is
soldered directly to the mainboard. You'd either have to desolder and
solder the whole jack, or you could make a custom ribbon cable to
route back into the S-760 (ugly, but possible).
The other issue is more severe. A internal ZipDrive is 6.5 inches
deep. Roland used a fairly short-form floppy drive that is 4.5 inches
deep. The power supply is right behind the floppy drive, so there is
no room for the 6.5" deep ZipDrive, unless you relocated the power
supply. That may be possible if you don't have the OP-1 video/digital
stuff; if you do, it is not possible even if you are squishing things
in there. You wind up short about .75 inch no matter how you squeeze it.
There better solution to me is to just get a 1 rack space shelf, or a
1-2 rack space rack drive case. Since the S-760 is rack anyway, the
only advantage of an Internal is the saving of at least 1 rack space.
I sell Internal ZipKits for the Ensoniq ASR-10, and that is a huge
advantage because one can take their ASR-10 around for gigs and truly
fulfill what the writer didn't want: cables, and power supplies everywhere.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
For the simple reason of keeping everything compact in a one rack unit. Who wants jaz drives and cd-rom drives and cables and power supplies everywhere?
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 04:29:46 +0000
> From: chaseman(a)socal.rr.com
> To: k2500x(a)hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Internal SCSI device on the S-760?
>
> ... but why?... if your floppy isn't working just make the default boot drive the Zip attached to the SCSi buss.
> Gary
>
> ---- k2500x _ <k2500x(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > There are rumors of sucessful internal SCSI ZIP drives, etc being installed to replace the floppy drive on the S-760.
> >
> > Is this true? Are there details anywhere of the installation?
> >
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There are rumors of sucessful internal SCSI ZIP drives, etc being installed to replace the floppy drive on the S-760.
Is this true? Are there details anywhere of the installation?
Thanks,
Ken
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Dear All,
Would anyone be so kind to tell me where can i get the 3 system disk images
for the S330. I have already read and browsed through the SGroup Archive (
http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/os/S330 ), but the only image
I find there is the one for Mac OS and I'm running Windows). Your help is
greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance,
Andrew
Hi
Nice to see lots of activity here lately, been so quiet for so long.
Note for anybody downloading those old Roland samples from the SGroup
archive;
http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/samples/Roland/
As far as I can remember, there were couple of disks which didn't work. I
have the working ones, but no time to go thru every single one to verify. So
if somebody figures out which are those broken ones, I can sent the correct
images. I actually got the Roland Sound Library L-CD1 disk, years after I
had already downloaded he same stuff from the site.
Most of the Roland sample collection is available at
http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/samples/Roland/
Jim Norman (then at Roland) arranged to send me floppy disks
for me to put online.
If anyone has any other samples they wish to share, I would
be more than happy to put them on the sgroup web site for
all to share.
Cheers!
John
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|
| I've not looked for this in a while, but I thought at one time Roland had an
| FTP web site of their samples available for the public to download that was
| in the SDISK format. Is that still the case or has that changed. If it is
| still available and Roland simply doesn't want to host it, perhaps we could
| find hosting with their permission elsewhere with our list owner?
| David A. Roth
Hi guys,
Thank you for all the advice and comments. I really appreciated them. I'd never take money away from anybody who has worked hard on creating patches or sample libraries. If you have some s-50 samples you've created and you'd like to sell them to me, that's great! If you guys can point me to how to get s-50 samples that others have made, I'd be happy to pay for them too.
I talked to two different departments at Roland, keyboard, and customer service this morning. Their feeling on these old stock samples is to just go ahead and trade away. They're not making any money off the old technology anymore.
Denny
Hi!
I have an S-760 with a bad internal LCD panel (not the backlight, the
LCD itself) - No information displays to the LCD at all.
Can someone tell me the exact series of steps (button presses)
to put the unit back into the mode that allows the use of an external
COMPOSITE monitor?
I'll be doing it blindly, so I'll need something that reads like:
"Press the 'down' button 3 times, then press the 'inc' button ".
I've tried a lot of combinations, to no avail. The problem is that this
menu is NOT shown in ANY of the available documentation, so I'm stuck,
and I can't use my sampler.
If someone could reply to this, I'd be very appreciative. It should only
take 30 seconds or so.
My S-760 has become a glorified paperweight because of this problem. I
REALLY need someone to help out!
Thanks in advance!
What's the law say about trading or copying sounds here in the states? I think it's wrong to pay for the actual sounds, but if you supply the materials so somebody can copy them for you is that wrong? Unless you put advertising on the internet, are the copyright holders going to press charges? I don't want to come across mean, I'm just curious about these questions. Isn't it easier just to throw some sounds on a floppy or 5 and send them through the mail?
I just got an S-760 and it came with a nice sample collection as part of the sale, but it's getting harder and harder to find the soundware for these samplers anymore. Anyone interested in trading sounds? Please email me....
Thanks,
Ken
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At 02:02 PM 3/25/2009, you wrote:
>How does translator output roland format? Does it write the ISO
>image and then you burn it to a CD?
That's one way. Another way is to write directly to a SCSI drive
(like a Zip), and wrwiting to floppy support is coming.
>What's the latest version of traslator?
2.9.122
>I tried it once around 2001 or so and found it so buggy as if to be unusable.
It could have been; that was a long time ago.
>Can I just stick in an AKAI disk and it will spit out in Roland
>format? The native translation of AKAI on the roland is very slow
>and painful. Plus the key velocity maps seem to be all wrong.
Generally you can, but it's probably best to do one Volume or one
Partition at a time. I'd like to see it do a full disk, no reason why
it can't.
Garth Hjelte
Sampler User
How does translator output roland format? Does it write the ISO image and then you burn it to a CD? What's the latest version of traslator? I tried it once around 2001 or so and found it so buggy as if to be unusable. Can I just stick in an AKAI disk and it will spit out in Roland format? The native translation of AKAI on the roland is very slow and painful. Plus the key velocity maps seem to be all wrong.
Ken
> I find Roland S-7x CD's very easily - EatWest and QUpArts have them
> still for sale on their sites. Roland I believe still sells their CD's.
>
> Sure, it's a little harder find the sounds, but the good news is that
> they are less expensive. Additionally (company plug here) you can use
> Translator www.chickensys.com to convert into Roland S-7x format from
> any other format, so you aren't necessarily tied into just Roland format.
>
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well, i did add a caveat.... thanks for the clarification.
b
On Mar 19, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Gary Chase wrote:
> This is not true... they switch fine when the cabling has integrity
> and your ID are set correctly. So many people have been doing this
> for year and years.... beginning with Han Zimmer when he sampled
> the London Phil specifically to be loaded into the Roland
> samplers... he had racks of 32 760's going.
>
> Bruce Tovsky wrote:
>> ken
>> be aware that most of these switches do NOT support "hot
>> switching". you will need to power down both s760's (and possibly
>> the drives), then do the switch, then reboot. caveat: it's been
>> years since i fiddled with SCSI so newer devices may have become
>> available that do "hot switch", but double-check to be sure. if
>> you have to power down, etc. it kind of defeats the purpose of the
>> switch. i've also heard that you can sometimes connect two devices
>> to the same scsi drive - go from one s760 to the drive, loop out
>> of that drive to the second s760. however, i don't know if the
>> 760's allow this or whether there would be other issues with this.
>> research needed.
>> good luck
>> b
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2009, at 4:28 PM, k2500x _ wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Gary thanks for the reply! I went to the electronic city web
>>> site and did not see any scsi switches. Any idea what model
>>> number I'm looking for and what price I should expect to pay? I
>>> also posted links to two switches below. Do you think these will
>>> work just as good?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Only one of my S760 has the video upgrade so I don't think a
>>> video switch will help me, right?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:17:13 -0700
>>>> From: chaseman(a)socal.rr.com <mailto:chaseman@socal.rr.com>
>>>> To: k2500x(a)hotmail.com <mailto:k2500x@hotmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [sgroup] SCSI switch box?
>>>>
>>>> We've been using 8 760s on 1 SCSI buss for years successfully...
>>>> You'll need 2 boxes, 1 for SCSi and 1 for video, both with an 8
>>>> selector pot...
>>>> You can order them from Electronic City in Burbank if you're in
>>>> LA or check your local Radio Shack.
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> k2500x _ wrote:
>>>>> Using multiple S-760s and was wondering if anyone has
>>>>> experience with using manual SCSI switch boxes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Would like to share one scsi HD with multiple S-760s.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cablesonline.net/abcnscsiswit1.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is one such switch box. This claims to be an actual SCSI
>>>>> switch with CN50 cables supported.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cablesonline.net/dbabswitbox1.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a DB25 box that is usually used for parallel printers,
>>>>> but it uses the same DB25 connector that is on the back of the
>>>>> S760 so I'm not sure why it wouldn't work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, is there an actual difference between SCSI and parallel
>>>>> DB25 cables? I understand that you should not interface one
>>>>> with the other, but is the actual DB25 cable itself different?
>>>>> The reason I ask is because parallel cables are so much cheaper.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>>>
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Hi Gary thanks for the reply! I went to the electronic city web site and did not see any scsi switches. Any idea what model number I'm looking for and what price I should expect to pay? I also posted links to two switches below. Do you think these will work just as good?
Only one of my S760 has the video upgrade so I don't think a video switch will help me, right?
Thanks again,
Ken
> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:17:13 -0700
> From: chaseman(a)socal.rr.com
> To: k2500x(a)hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [sgroup] SCSI switch box?
>
> We've been using 8 760s on 1 SCSI buss for years successfully... You'll
> need 2 boxes, 1 for SCSi and 1 for video, both with an 8 selector pot..
> You can order them from Electronic City in Burbank if you're in LA or
> check your local Radio Shack.
> Gary
>
> k2500x _ wrote:
> > Using multiple S-760s and was wondering if anyone has experience with using manual SCSI switch boxes?
> >
> > Would like to share one scsi HD with multiple S-760s.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.cablesonline.net/abcnscsiswit1.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is one such switch box. This claims to be an actual SCSI switch with CN50 cables supported.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.cablesonline.net/dbabswitbox1.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is a DB25 box that is usually used for parallel printers, but it uses the same DB25 connector that is on the back of the S760 so I'm not sure why it wouldn't work.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, is there an actual difference between SCSI and parallel DB25 cables? I understand that you should not interface one with the other, but is the actual DB25 cable itself different? The reason I ask is because parallel cables are so much cheaper.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
>> > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup
> > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.
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Using multiple S-760s and was wondering if anyone has experience with using manual SCSI switch boxes?
Would like to share one scsi HD with multiple S-760s.
http://www.cablesonline.net/abcnscsiswit1.html
Here is one such switch box. This claims to be an actual SCSI switch with CN50 cables supported.
http://www.cablesonline.net/dbabswitbox1.html
Here is a DB25 box that is usually used for parallel printers, but it uses the same DB25 connector that is on the back of the S760 so I'm not sure why it wouldn't work.
Also, is there an actual difference between SCSI and parallel DB25 cables? I understand that you should not interface one with the other, but is the actual DB25 cable itself different? The reason I ask is because parallel cables are so much cheaper.
Thanks in advance!
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Hi!
I have an S-760 with a bad LCD display. Can someone tell me the exact
series of steps to put the unit back into the mode that allows the use
of an external monitor?
I'll be doing it blindly, so I'll need something that reads like: "press
'down' 3 times, then press 'inc' ".
Thanks in advance!
Hey
I sold my samplers a long time ago, but have some stuff laying around.
I'd hate to just throw it out.
It's free to anyone that's willing pay shipping to have it sent to you.
But you must take all of it.
I believe everything was working the last time it was used,
but that was years ago.
You can estimate shipping a box about 20lbs from Pittsburgh PA to your location.
Here's what you'll get.
S-550 manual
S-330 manual
SCSI CD-ROM drive Apple 300e Plus
APS External SCSI hard drive of unknown size
SCSI terminator
Roland Director -S Sequencer Package SYS-503 for the S-50
Misc Sample CDs
David
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Boy, what a really stupid question. It's been literally years since I last
fired this machine up and I'm reassembling my home studio, so in Patch edit
mode can someone please remind me how to change the name of a Patch? It's
probably the same way to rename a Performance, which I can't find either.
I've got both S-760 manuals right in front of me but I can't find on the
sampler itself or in the manuals how to rename a Patch!
Thanks very much in advance!
Jesse