Juno-G v2.0 sampling - sgroup - mailman.syonex.com

Jasper de Haas

15 Apr 15 Apr

12:51 p.m.

Great news.. let me hijack the thread ;-) I like this mailing list a lot. I own a SY77 from Yamaha. Does anyone know a mailing list like the s-group for the SY series or more general about Yamaha FM products? Grtz, :) On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Andy Skuse <askuse(a)ody.ca> wrote:

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I know this ML is for the S-series Roland samplers, but thought this may be of interest to anyone who, like me, is using an S-760 live and has been wishing for an affordable Roland synth/sampler workstation. The Roland Juno-G is now being sold with version 2.0 of the Juno-G software and this upgrade now offers sampling features that were previously unavailable. And for current Juno-G users the update is available free to download (see Downloads page at link below). So if like me, you were looking for a single keyboard to use live that can trigger samples instead of hauling a controller/S-760 rack combo around then take a look at the Juno-G v2.0. http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=756&Paren… Andy _______________________________________________ Sent by the sgroup mailing list sgroup(a)sgroup.ca For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.

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Andy Skuse

3:46 p.m.

On 15-Apr-10, at 2:50 PM, Garth Hjelte wrote:

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It should be noted that aside from the terminology and the same company, there is no relationship between the Juno-G and the S-7x or S-5x samplers, it might as well be a different unit. The Fantom is actually the bigger brother. The Fantom-G initially came out with NO multisampling ability like the previous Fantom-S and -X. It eventually got it back, same with the Juno-G, but it's the same functionality really, no additions. The reason for the removal/put-in-again glitch (IMHO) is that the Fantom uses a different CPU (more off-the-shelf) and the OS was rewritten to accommodate it. You'd be surprised about how much the modern hardware stuff uses embedded Linux technology behind their OS's. Companies don't have the time nor resources to make their own OS's anymore. The XV-5080 actually had a S-7x engine on top of the synth engine, so if you REALLY want the S-7x, that's the modern unit to get. Aside from Roland, IMHO, the best hardware sampler to appear is the Akai Z-8. For modern workstations, the Alesis Fusion (no discontinued) had the best sampler engine, besides that I'd go for the Motif XS. I use all these pieces and I don't want to knock Roland but the Fantom-G is immensely difficult to use (too many clicks to do one thing, the buttons are in ungainly locations). This year, things may be changing with new versions of the Motif and the new Kurzweil P3K. Just my opinion, though. Garth Hjelte Sampler User

Hey Garth, The problem for me isn't about the finding the "best" sampler, it's about finding a synth *and* sampler that is easy on the budget and reduces the amount of stuff I have to take with me to gigs (I play guitar as well so add in an amp, guitars, footpedals, and then you have a recipe for back problems). As an S-760 and S-750 (and S-50 and S-10 in the past) owner I certainly appreciate S-series samplers for their unique abilities and sound. But I am currently using a Roland RS-5 (not a great controller I admit but it has lots of great analog synth sounds I like), and an S-760 in a rack (don't forget the external SCSI hard drive!) for gigs, and to be able to combine a synth with a sampler into one keyboard without having to drag around an extra rack or hard drive (the Juno-G uses SD cards for storage) would greatly simplify my setup and reduce my total gigging weight. And to be able to buy that same device for $1100 (Juno-G $1099.99 at music123.com) is a bargain compared to the Fantoms ($2295 at music123.com for G6). And the XV-5080 is a rackmount sampler so I'm back to dragging around a rack and a hard drive. The Juno-G solves 2 big problems for me, just thought I'd mention it in case any other S- series owners were in the same boat. Andy

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Jasper de Haas

4:30 a.m.

I'm missing the mv8000/mv8800 in the sampling discussion. I have no experience with these machines, but they carry the Roland name. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Garth Hjelte <garth(a)chickensys.com> wrote:

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At 10:09 AM 4/15/2010, you wrote: I know this ML is for the S-series Roland samplers, but thought this

may be of interest to anyone who, like me, is using an S-760 live and has been wishing for an affordable Roland synth/sampler workstation. The Roland Juno-G is now being sold with version 2.0 of the Juno-G software and this upgrade now offers sampling features that were previously unavailable. And for current Juno-G users the update is available free to download (see Downloads page at link below). So if like me, you were looking for a single keyboard to use live that can trigger samples instead of hauling a controller/S-760 rack combo around then take a look at the Juno-G v2.0.

It should be noted that aside from the terminology and the same company, there is no relationship between the Juno-G and the S-7x or S-5x samplers, it might as well be a different unit. The Fantom is actually the bigger brother. The Fantom-G initially came out with NO multisampling ability like the previous Fantom-S and -X. It eventually got it back, same with the Juno-G, but it's the same functionality really, no additions. The reason for the removal/put-in-again glitch (IMHO) is that the Fantom uses a different CPU (more off-the-shelf) and the OS was rewritten to accommodate it. You'd be surprised about how much the modern hardware stuff uses embedded Linux technology behind their OS's. Companies don't have the time nor resources to make their own OS's anymore. The XV-5080 actually had a S-7x engine on top of the synth engine, so if you REALLY want the S-7x, that's the modern unit to get. Aside from Roland, IMHO, the best hardware sampler to appear is the Akai Z-8. For modern workstations, the Alesis Fusion (no discontinued) had the best sampler engine, besides that I'd go for the Motif XS. I use all these pieces and I don't want to knock Roland but the Fantom-G is immensely difficult to use (too many clicks to do one thing, the buttons are in ungainly locations). This year, things may be changing with new versions of the Motif and the new Kurzweil P3K. Just my opinion, though. Garth Hjelte Sampler User _______________________________________________ Sent by the sgroup mailing list sgroup(a)sgroup.ca For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.

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