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Some history & best way to archive S-330 floppy disks to extract the samples.

by David A.Roth

Some background history. In the early 1990s I encouraged developers on the SGROUP mailing list to create what became known as the SAMDISK (SDISK, SMAC, etc) utility. My intention was not to propose anything fancy, just something to allow a track by track copy of the contents of a floppy disk for the Roland samplers to a single file, so it could be transferred via modem and of course the Internet. Then with software on the user's computer, to be able to re-create that entire disk. This was a way for someone on one side of the global to be able to share their samples they created with others. The method until then, was to actually mail blank floppy disks to a user on the SGROUP list, they could make copies and postal mail them back. SAMDISK worked fine, as their were versions created for the Mac, PC and others. Years later, I saw somewhere on the Roland web site they had adapted the SAMDISK format. I didn't ask for too much in the ways of features for this utility initially because at the time Roland wasn't releasing the file format of the disk or how the samples were constructed either. I figured if I made my proposal too lofty, it might not ever get done. I even called Roland to ask for info at the time, and was told the software development was done in Japan so they didn't even have source code to give my any pointers to pass on to developers in terms of file formats, length and purpose of the fields. Of course, I thought at the time it would have been nice to be able to extract specific samples from a Roland floppy disk, and do something with it, but what? In the early 1990s, many computers didn't have a sound card provided at the time of purchase except for the Mac. The concept of the Digital Audio Workstation was still very early and very expensive. I was very surprised at how the developers on the SGROUP took this concept and ran with it. Not only were versions created on several platforms to do as I hoped, they took it further to be able to actually extract a sample right from the floppy disk. I have really only used the SMAC for the Macintosh version. This brings us pretty much up to date. I still have my Roland S-330 in my studio along with about 200 floppy disks in Roland S-330 format. Many of them are samples I personally created and wish to archive them and put them in a modern generic universal format such as WAV and/or AIFF. Others contain samples I tweaked in some way, and some are from the old Roland Library when I bought my Roland S-330 that you were allowed to copy from the authorized dealer. With 200 floopy disks, this can be a big project. I also realize that configurations and settings unique to the Roland S-330 will be lost in the transfer. Please, I'm not asking once again developers on the SGROUP to create another project such as the Roland S-330 OS soft emulator. Really, I'm not. :-) What is the most up to date version of the SAMDISK utility regardless of platform to use that will do the best job of extracting samples? Mac, Windows? Which name and version software? If I recall correctly, the SAMDISK would create an image file, then you use the SAMDISK to open that image file and extract the samples, is this correct? I'm asking because I figure I might as well archive the image file. It is kind of amazing to realize that all 200 Roland sample S-330 floppy disks will easily be able to fit on a single CD-ROM (samples and image file), which costs less than what I paid for a single floppy disk at the time I bought the sampler. :-) Thanks in advance, David A. Roth david(a)roth-music.com NJ/NYC

18 years, 10 months

RE: sgroup Digest, Vol 20, Issue 4

by JMD JMD

Hi Garth I checked my site and it seems not always work well: I dont know why. Anyway, the direct link is: http://jm1200.free.fr/binaries/S760CTDIF.zip (I added the source file to the Zip) I also made bug report with examples few months ago (B.R. 2586/2610). After few attempts, I decided to try myself and I found the pbm with a hexa editor and a lot of tests. Hope it will help you to track the bug. JMD Note: Translator is a great tool and the free version is a nice idea for amateur musicians like me. >From: sgroup-request(a)sgroup.ca >Reply-To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >Subject: sgroup Digest, Vol 20, Issue 4 >Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:00:03 -0500 (EST) > >Send sgroup mailing list submissions to > sgroup(a)sgroup.ca > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sgroup-request(a)sgroup.ca > >You can reach the person managing the list at > sgroup-owner(a)sgroup.ca > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of sgroup digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site > (Thomas Malmberg) > 2. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site > (Denny Daughters) > 3. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site > (Thomas Malmberg) > 4. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site (Peter V) > 5. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site > (Garth Hjelte) > 6. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site > (Garth Hjelte) > 7. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site > (Garth Hjelte) > 8. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site > (Garth Hjelte) > 9. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site > (Garth Hjelte) > 10. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site > (Christian Keck) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:14:31 +0200 >From: Thomas Malmberg <malmberg(a)iki.fi> >Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web > site >To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >Message-ID: <458AF937.5040604(a)iki.fi> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >http://www.skickafilen.se/download.jsp;jsessionid=B932630716F190E386565CBC6… > >Pardon for the location as it may be far away from most of you, but >yousendshit.com requires a login of some sort, and this doesn't. > >Let's hope it works. > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:16:30 -0700 >From: "Denny Daughters" <denny(a)dennydaughters.com> >Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web > site >To: <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca> >Message-ID: <000b01c7253c$e8851610$0200a8c0@DennyKiki> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > >I'm pretty sure if you sample a snare hit or a note, artists don't consider >it infringement. When you sample part of a song, that's when they start >getting unhappy if you haven't asked permission. Or let's say a guitar >lick >or a obvious drum fill, that's when they start frowning. By all means, ask >permission from Zildjian to use the existing samples, you never know, they >might say yes. >Denny > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:22:12 +0200 >From: Thomas Malmberg <malmberg(a)iki.fi> >Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web > site >To: Denny Daughters <denny(a)dennydaughters.com> >Cc: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >Message-ID: <458AFB04.7040105(a)iki.fi> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Denny Daughters wrote: > > I'm pretty sure if you sample a snare hit or a note, artists don't > > consider it infringement. When you sample part of a song, that's when > >No probably not, but when you systematically download 37 sounds and make >them into a sampler-standard and upload that to the internet, they might >consider it something else than casual lending of a sound. But anyway, >for uncommercial use, I use whatever. If I some day become rich with my >music, I'll just buy one of each of those cymbals and use as frisbees. > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:33:26 +0100 >From: "Peter V" <peter.vermeeren(a)hetnet.nl> >Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web > site >To: <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca> >Message-ID: <003701c72547$a647af50$9600000a@p3> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > >It works fine, thanks! > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Thomas Malmberg" <malmberg(a)iki.fi> >To: <sgroup(a)sgroup.ca> >Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:14 PM >Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site > > > > >http://www.skickafilen.se/download.jsp;jsessionid=B932630716F190E386565CBC6… > > > > Pardon for the location as it may be far away from most of you, but > > yousendshit.com requires a login of some sort, and this doesn't. > > > > Let's hope it works. > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:46:43 -0600 >From: Garth Hjelte <garth(a)chickensys.com> >Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web > site >To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >Message-ID: <20061222050213.4C48E1B5AD0(a)s5.syonex.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >At 01:04 AM 12/18/2006, you wrote: > > >Unfortunately Chickensys' software still does not work for me on my > >S-760. The generated CD-image is still faulty and thus the S-760 is not > >able to load the samples correctly, in fact it loads just "silence" >instead. > >I did some testing for them and Garth Hjelte promised me to get back to > >me as soon as the bugs are located and fixed. This has been in February > >if I remember right. I'm still waiting... > >It was fixed a long time ago, we just don't reply to any or every >person unless there is a Bug Report filled out (which none were, I >just checked). > >Garth Hjelte >Sampler User > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:42:10 -0600 >From: Garth Hjelte <garth(a)chickensys.com> >Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web > site >To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >Message-ID: <20061222054521.DCEA61B5C4E(a)s5.syonex.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >At 06:37 AM 12/18/2006, you wrote: > > >I guess those guys must be REALLY busy updating their software for other > >sampler formats - they've been promising full S-7XX support for years. > > > >Isn't Garth still on this list? > >Still here. WAV->S-7x has been supported and workable in Translator >for a long time. > >Garth Hjelte >Sampler User > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 7 >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:42:07 -0600 >From: Garth Hjelte <garth(a)chickensys.com> >Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web > site >To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >Message-ID: <20061222054522.03AB31B5C75(a)s5.syonex.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >At 01:04 AM 12/18/2006, you wrote: > > >Unfortunately Chickensys' software still does not work for me on my > >S-760. The generated CD-image is still faulty and thus the S-760 is not > >able to load the samples correctly, in fact it loads just "silence" >instead. > >I did some testing for them and Garth Hjelte promised me to get back to > >me as soon as the bugs are located and fixed. This has been in February > >if I remember right. I'm still waiting... > >It was fixed a long time ago, we just don't reply to any or every >person unless there is a Bug Report filled out (which none were, I >just checked). > >Garth Hjelte >Sampler User > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 8 >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:42:05 -0600 >From: Garth Hjelte <garth(a)chickensys.com> >Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web > site >To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >Message-ID: <20061222054524.76D0F1B5C82(a)s5.syonex.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >At 08:24 PM 12/17/2006, you wrote: > > >Say, has anybody gone over to the Zildjian web site and 'borrowed' some > >of the samples they have for their cymbals? They've got multiple > >samples for just about all of their cymbals, and some of them, > >especially the Chinas, are unbelievable! > > > >It shouldn't be much trouble to convert them from mp3 to wav and load > >them into a sampler that supports wav format. Does Chickensys or any > >translation software finally allow you to load wav files into the Roland > >samplers? > >Yes, Translator has done this for a long time. > >Garth Hjelte >Sampler User > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 9 >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:42:02 -0600 >From: Garth Hjelte <garth(a)chickensys.com> >Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web > site >To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >Message-ID: <20061222054524.1E4921B5C81(a)s5.syonex.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >At 09:44 AM 12/19/2006, you wrote: > > >Unfortunately there seem to be other serious bugs in Translator. One big > >one is, that it sometimes do not compute the beginning and ending of > >sample(wave)data correctly, > >leading so something like this here: http://home.arcor.de/tonmann/pic.png > >Now since it's the "real data" the is ripped wrong, JMD's program has of > >course no chance to fix the loop-points. > >What a pity! Where are so close to have a real working solution. > >Hey Chickensys, you should hire JMD. He just casually wrote a small tool > >that fixes what you guys couldn't fix for quite a long time now. And he > >did not have all the internal specs I suppose... > >His page showed Error 500 for me; however, we make Virtual Drive's >for S-7x all the time and it's worked for a long time. I don't know >what bug you are referring to; if there was one, it was fixed a long time >ago. > >As we say many times, if you find a bug, just let us know by filling >out a Bug Report www.chickensys.com/translator/bugreports and give an >example. We'll be right on it and fix it ASAP and put up a public or >private build ASAP. We always do that; it's strange to hear reports >that a bug is persistent. > >If in doubt, just contact us. > >Garth Hjelte >Sampler User > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 10 >Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:11:50 +0100 >From: Christian Keck <c.keck(a)gmx.net> >Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web > site >To: Garth Hjelte <garth(a)chickensys.com>, sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >Message-ID: <458BD996.9040503(a)gmx.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >This is not true, Garth! >I still have the dozen of emails here in my archive of the conversation >we both had after I had posted a detailed bugreport on your bugtracker, >including screenshots, byte-offsets of the wrong data in the image file, >etc... This was with version build 104. You told me that you have no >chance to test if on a real S-760 yourself since the display has died >and you need to. >I just checked the archive. The first mail-contact I had with you was on >11/08/2004. In that email I already described the problem detailed (that >days build 64). >However, it still does not work for me, even with build 108 it' still >exactly the same: The S-760 seems to load "empty" samples. So where is >this bug "fixed a long time ago"? > >cheers, >Chris > > > >Garth Hjelte schrieb: > > At 01:04 AM 12/18/2006, you wrote: > > > >> Unfortunately Chickensys' software still does not work for me on my > >> S-760. The generated CD-image is still faulty and thus the S-760 is not > >> able to load the samples correctly, in fact it loads just "silence" > >> instead. > >> I did some testing for them and Garth Hjelte promised me to get back to > >> me as soon as the bugs are located and fixed. This has been in February > >> if I remember right. I'm still waiting... > > > > It was fixed a long time ago, we just don't reply to any or every > > person unless there is a Bug Report filled out (which none were, I > > just checked). > > > > Garth Hjelte > > Sampler User > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > > sgroup(a)sgroup.ca > > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >sgroup mailing list >sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup >See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > >End of sgroup Digest, Vol 20, Issue 4 >************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Ten : profite de ton Messenger en illimité sur ton mobile ! http://mobile.live.fr/messenger/ten/

18 years, 10 months

Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site

by Garth Hjelte

At 06:37 AM 12/18/2006, you wrote: >I guess those guys must be REALLY busy updating their software for other >sampler formats - they've been promising full S-7XX support for years. > >Isn't Garth still on this list? Still here. WAV->S-7x has been supported and workable in Translator for a long time. Garth Hjelte Sampler User

18 years, 10 months

Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site

by Garth Hjelte

At 01:04 AM 12/18/2006, you wrote: >Unfortunately Chickensys' software still does not work for me on my >S-760. The generated CD-image is still faulty and thus the S-760 is not >able to load the samples correctly, in fact it loads just "silence" instead. >I did some testing for them and Garth Hjelte promised me to get back to >me as soon as the bugs are located and fixed. This has been in February >if I remember right. I'm still waiting... It was fixed a long time ago, we just don't reply to any or every person unless there is a Bug Report filled out (which none were, I just checked). Garth Hjelte Sampler User

18 years, 10 months

Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site

by Garth Hjelte

At 08:24 PM 12/17/2006, you wrote: >Say, has anybody gone over to the Zildjian web site and 'borrowed' some >of the samples they have for their cymbals? They've got multiple >samples for just about all of their cymbals, and some of them, >especially the Chinas, are unbelievable! > >It shouldn't be much trouble to convert them from mp3 to wav and load >them into a sampler that supports wav format. Does Chickensys or any >translation software finally allow you to load wav files into the Roland >samplers? Yes, Translator has done this for a long time. Garth Hjelte Sampler User

18 years, 10 months

Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site

by Garth Hjelte

At 09:44 AM 12/19/2006, you wrote: >Unfortunately there seem to be other serious bugs in Translator. One big >one is, that it sometimes do not compute the beginning and ending of >sample(wave)data correctly, >leading so something like this here: http://home.arcor.de/tonmann/pic.png >Now since it's the "real data" the is ripped wrong, JMD's program has of >course no chance to fix the loop-points. >What a pity! Where are so close to have a real working solution. >Hey Chickensys, you should hire JMD. He just casually wrote a small tool >that fixes what you guys couldn't fix for quite a long time now. And he >did not have all the internal specs I suppose... His page showed Error 500 for me; however, we make Virtual Drive's for S-7x all the time and it's worked for a long time. I don't know what bug you are referring to; if there was one, it was fixed a long time ago. As we say many times, if you find a bug, just let us know by filling out a Bug Report www.chickensys.com/translator/bugreports and give an example. We'll be right on it and fix it ASAP and put up a public or private build ASAP. We always do that; it's strange to hear reports that a bug is persistent. If in doubt, just contact us. Garth Hjelte Sampler User

18 years, 10 months

Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site

by JMD JMD

>Unfortunately Chickensys' software still does not work for me on my >S-760. The generated CD-image is still faulty and thus the S-760 is not >able to load the samples correctly, in fact it loads just "silence" >instead. Hello, It's my first post to this mailing list :) I made a little tool to fix the Chicken S760 image file. It's far from perfect but still usefull ;). http://jm1200.free.fr/index.php?r=6 JMD >From: sgroup-request(a)sgroup.ca >Reply-To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >Subject: sgroup Digest, Vol 20, Issue 1 >Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:00:03 -0500 (EST) > >Send sgroup mailing list submissions to > sgroup(a)sgroup.ca > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sgroup-request(a)sgroup.ca > >You can reach the person managing the list at > sgroup-owner(a)sgroup.ca > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of sgroup digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site (Jesse Segovia) > 2. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site > (Christian Keck) > 3. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site > (Thomas Malmberg) > 4. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site > (Jesse Segovia) > 5. Re: Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site > (Jesse Segovia) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:24:08 -0500 >From: Jesse Segovia <jsegovia(a)mindspring.com> >Subject: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web site >To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >Message-ID: <4585FBC8.9080200(a)mindspring.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Say, has anybody gone over to the Zildjian web site and 'borrowed' some >of the samples they have for their cymbals? They've got multiple >samples for just about all of their cymbals, and some of them, >especially the Chinas, are unbelievable! > >It shouldn't be much trouble to convert them from mp3 to wav and load >them into a sampler that supports wav format. Does Chickensys or any >translation software finally allow you to load wav files into the Roland >samplers? > >Jesse > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:04:18 +0100 >From: Christian Keck <c.keck(a)gmx.net> >Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web > site >To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >Message-ID: <45863D72.20002(a)gmx.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >Hi Jesse, > >thanks for sharing that information! > >Unfortunately Chickensys' software still does not work for me on my >S-760. The generated CD-image is still faulty and thus the S-760 is not >able to load the samples correctly, in fact it loads just "silence" >instead. >I did some testing for them and Garth Hjelte promised me to get back to >me as soon as the bugs are located and fixed. This has been in February >if I remember right. I'm still waiting... > >cheers, >Chris > > > >Jesse Segovia schrieb: > > Say, has anybody gone over to the Zildjian web site and 'borrowed' > > some of the samples they have for their cymbals? They've got multiple > > samples for just about all of their cymbals, and some of them, > > especially the Chinas, are unbelievable! > > > > It shouldn't be much trouble to convert them from mp3 to wav and load > > them into a sampler that supports wav format. Does Chickensys or any > > translation software finally allow you to load wav files into the > > Roland samplers? > > > > Jesse > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > > sgroup(a)sgroup.ca > > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:58:30 +0200 >From: Thomas Malmberg <malmberg(a)iki.fi> >Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web > site >To: Jesse Segovia <jsegovia(a)mindspring.com> >Cc: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >Message-ID: <1166428710.45864a26d7a3e(a)webmail.welho.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Lainaus Jesse Segovia <jsegovia(a)mindspring.com>: > > > Say, has anybody gone over to the Zildjian web site and 'borrowed' some > > of the samples they have for their cymbals? They've got multiple > > samples for just about all of their cymbals, and some of them, > > especially the Chinas, are unbelievable! > >These? > >http://www.zildjian.com/en-US/zildjianu/cymbalsounds.ad2 > >Or which? > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 07:35:38 -0500 >From: Jesse Segovia <jsegovia(a)mindspring.com> >Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web > site >To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >Message-ID: <45868B1A.8010401(a)mindspring.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >If you go to any cymbal page there's usually a sound clip or two on the >page. Even if you can't download these clips directly from there you >can usually find the clip on somebody else's page. For example, I >really like the sound of this cymbal: > >http://www.zildjian.com/en-US/products/productDetail.ad2?catalogID=1013&typ… > >You can find these same sound clips on a music store page selling this >cymbal, so here's the Musician's Friend page featuring those same clips >for easy download: > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Zildjian-Oriental-Classic-China-Cymb… > >Jesse > >Thomas Malmberg wrote: > > These? > > > > http://www.zildjian.com/en-US/zildjianu/cymbalsounds.ad2 > > > > Or which? > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 07:37:15 -0500 >From: Jesse Segovia <jsegovia(a)mindspring.com> >Subject: Re: [sgroup] Sampling cymbal sounds from the Zildjian web > site >To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >Message-ID: <45868B7B.6090609(a)mindspring.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >I guess those guys must be REALLY busy updating their software for other >sampler formats - they've been promising full S-7XX support for years. > >Isn't Garth still on this list? > >Jesse > >Christian Keck wrote: > > > Hi Jesse, > > > > thanks for sharing that information! > > > > Unfortunately Chickensys' software still does not work for me on my > > S-760. The generated CD-image is still faulty and thus the S-760 is not > > able to load the samples correctly, in fact it loads just "silence" > > instead. > > I did some testing for them and Garth Hjelte promised me to get back to > > me as soon as the bugs are located and fixed. This has been in February > > if I remember right. I'm still waiting... > > > > cheers, > > Chris > > > > > > > > Jesse Segovia schrieb: > > > >> Say, has anybody gone over to the Zildjian web site and 'borrowed' > >> some of the samples they have for their cymbals? They've got multiple > >> samples for just about all of their cymbals, and some of them, > >> especially the Chinas, are unbelievable! > >> > >> It shouldn't be much trouble to convert them from mp3 to wav and load > >> them into a sampler that supports wav format. Does Chickensys or any > >> translation software finally allow you to load wav files into the > >> Roland samplers? > >> > >> Jesse > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sent by the sgroup mailing list > >> sgroup(a)sgroup.ca > >> For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > >> See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list > > sgroup(a)sgroup.ca > > For subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup > > See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >sgroup mailing list >sgroup(a)sgroup.ca >http://www.sgroup.ca/mailman/listinfo/sgroup >See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > >End of sgroup Digest, Vol 20, Issue 1 >************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Live.com : le moteur de recherche aux réponses bien carrossées! http://www.windowslive.fr/livecom/

18 years, 10 months

Any unique sounds avail. for SP-700?

by seamonstersounds＠verizon.net

First-time poster, late to the party. A friend just gave me her old SP-700 (maxed 32MB). I feel like an archeologist, pouring through the SGroup archives, deciphering the cryptic manual, and playing Dr. Frankenstein with SCSI peripherals that haven't been out of the closet in years. While I suspect that I may have enough of the right hardware puzzle pieces to make it all work, my question boils down to: is it worth pursuing at all? That is, are there any interesting sounds out there that are uniquely available in Roland S-series format? (Unusual, weird, or otherwise special?) If there aren't, I should prolly remain content with my E6400 Ultra, K2500X, and the few soft sampler progs I have so far, and just try to ignore the SP-700... right? Bonus question: Am I right in thinking that, using the SMac utility program (or something else?), I can make images of the several ZIP disks of S-format samples that I got, and burn them to CD-R's that the SP-700 will read? Extra-bonus question: Anyone have a 600MB SCSI HD they'd like to part with for next to nothing? (I'm in So Cal.) Cheers, Hoagie Hill http://www.seamonstersounds.com --

18 years, 11 months

Re: [sgroup] Some history & best way to archive S-330 floppy disks to extract the samples.

by dennis barton

> >What is the most up to date version of the SAMDISK utility >regardless of platform to use that will do the best job of >extracting samples? Mac, Windows? Which name and version software? > >If I recall correctly, the SAMDISK would create an image file, then >you use the SAMDISK to open that image file and extract the samples, >is this correct? I'm asking because I figure I might as well archive >the image file. It is kind of amazing to realize that all 200 Roland >sample S-330 floppy disks will easily be able to fit on a single >CD-ROM (samples and image file), which costs less than what I paid >for a single floppy disk at the time I bought the sampler. :-) sorry Awave is shareware, not free. |_e_/ Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com> ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com

18 years, 12 months

Roland S-750 w/Monitor, mouse, CD, and Zip for sale

by Gaffa

There's a complete S-750 system for sale on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/Roland-S-750-Digital-Sampler_W0QQitemZ290041611375QQihZ… Len "Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead (Change starts here: http://www.ishmael.com/origins/Ishmael/)

19 years

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