to quote steve landay:
=> This is a good example of my point I think.
=>
=> According to some, you have no legal way of procuring the original
=> programming/software (of which is no longer being produced) to make
=> the thing work at all aside from sampling your own samples, unless
=> there is still a company in business which you can purchase from.
Roland may no longer be offering the sample library for sale, but there
are other soundware manufacturers that do or software that will convert
from other formats, so there are still ample ways of putting those vintage
units to work!
Ebay is also useful for picking up soundware too.
Regards,
Nic.
--
Nic Grant, Soft Audio, nic(a)softaudio.com, GSM: +353 87 2300 914
>
>The original sgroup list had a group archive of their samples - if
>you read the old archives you'll find lots of discussions about this
>- but I don't think any of them are available anymore. We should
>contribute all we legally can to a new group archive.
This discussion is kinda funny here on sgroup because the Roland
samples I think we are discussing are all on the sgroup archive already!!!
I think we had this same conversation many years ago, and the result
is they are all online in out very own group!!
Roland samples here:
http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/samples/
Even samples many if us contributed, when we were all young.
The problem is that they are in .out format, so need to be modernized.
|_e_/ Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
) skylab2000
~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
/ http://skylab2000.com
If any mac people on here can't read their old Roland disks, I'd be
happy to read in a few for you on my PC..
I can also read ZIP disks, but that's a bit more involved..
|_e_/ Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
) skylab2000
~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
/ http://skylab2000.com
Does anyone have a listing of all their samples? Mine's at home - I'll post it to the list as soon as I can.
The original sgroup list had a group archive of their samples - if you read the old archives you'll find lots of discussions about this - but I don't think any of them are available anymore. We should contribute all we legally can to a new group archive.
Does anyone have any server space available to host it?
Jesse
-----Original Message-----
>From: Bruce Tovsky <bruce(a)skeletonhome.com>
>Sent: May 5, 2008 11:01 AM
>To: sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
>Subject: Re: [sgroup] Any S-news out there?
>
>hi everyone
>well, looks like the old gang is still reading the list, even if most
>of us haven't fired up our samplers in a while. yet i can't bring
>myself to get rid of it. i did a live show a couple of weeks ago and
>one of the performers did an amazing solo set with an old akai
>sampler (i think an s1000) which just showed me that it's how you use
>it that counts. same thing with my old oberheim matrix 6R - i know as
>soon as i sell it i'll have an idea that calls for some meaty analog.
>back on the s550 front, i too have a ton of old disks and would be
>willing to participate in a collective archive if there is interest.
>one thing i wonder is if there is any lingering legal issues we
>should consider. i have a couple of commercial cdrs of samples from
>companies long gone - are we safe in including these? what about
>roland samples?
>cheers
>bruce
>
>On May 4, 2008, at 11:10 PM, Jesse Segovia wrote:
>
>> Hello, everybody! Great to see some traffic on this excellent list,
>> dedicated to a great (if somewhat dated) technology.
>>
>> I've backed up lots of my s-disk images which I'll gladly make
>> available to
>> anyone who's interested. As a matter of fact, one very kind list
>> member
>> sent me a CD of some of his backups in exchange for my backups, but
>> I never
>> finished my own backups and I've since forgot who sent me the
>> disk! :(
>> Very big apologies to whomever it was - please let me know and I'll
>> correct
>> the situation immediately.
>>
>> If anyone is interested this would make a good excuse for me to
>> start again
>> to complete backing up my disks to sdisk images and put those on a CD.
>>
>> Oh, and I also have a very large collection of blank 720KB floppy
>> disks for
>> sale, if anyone is interested. They are very good quality - they
>> came from
>> the software company where I used to work, and in all the years
>> I've worked
>> with them (since the late '80s) I think I've only had one or two
>> fail on me.
>>
>> Let me know if anyone is interested in that.
>>
>> Jesse
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sgroup-bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com(a)sgroup.ca
>> [mailto:sgroup-bounces+jsegovia=mindspring.com@sgroup.ca] On Behalf Of
>> dennis barton
>> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:24 PM
>> To: David A. Roth; sgroup(a)sgroup.ca
>> Subject: Re: [sgroup] Any S-news out there?
>>
>>
>> I also have the Roland fioppies. If we are planning to archive these,
>> shouldn't we all work together to not duplicate work.
>>
>> Or has this been done already for the Roland floppies?
>>
>> I've found many of my old disks are now unreadable....
>>
>>
>> At 5/4/2008 01:13 PM, David A. Roth wrote:
>>> Hi Colin and everyone!
>>>
>>> Nice to see some activity on this list too.
>>>
>>> I have many disks for my S330 and have given thought to archive them.
>>> I was either going to use the S-Mac and/or 'dd' command on Linux to
>>> create an image of each floppy as a directory, and then burn the
>>> whole thing to CD-ROM. Of course, I would want to have the samples
>>> exacted too since there is no telling if any sort of format from the
>>> Roland sampler library would be supported. It seems a shame to have
>>> to lose the set-ups for the samples and patches themselves by going
>>> to another format whatever that might be. But at the very least,
>>> preserving the raw samples is possible.
>>>
>>> Yes, there might be better samples available now for certain things,
>>> but those you created yourself or edited it would be good to keep
>>> them. Hard to believe that hundreds of those floppy disks could be
>>> stored on a single CD-ROM now for less than the price of what I paid
>>> for a single 3.5 floppy disk. :-)
>>>
>>> Loading them into Mach 5 would also be a good idea as well!
>>>
>>> David A. Roth
>>> david(a)roth-music.com
>>>
>>> On May 4, 2008, at 6:39 AM, Colin Shapiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> There hasn't been any action on this group for months so I thought
>>>> I'd get something going....
>>>>
>>>> I hardly use my S550 anymore but I have literally hundreds of
>>>> floppy disks of sounds. It seems a shame for all of these to not be
>>>> used anymore. This is really just laziness and ease of use - I work
>>>> with Logic Pro 8 and tend to use their EXS24 sampler exclusively.
>>>>
>>>> I have the old S-Mac set of utilities for reading and writing S550
>>>> disks and sometimes use them to just lift sounds off the floppies,
>>>> for import into EXS24. This works okay for very simple things like
>>>> drum samples and hits.
>>>>
>>>> I also use CDXtract and sometimes Translator to convert S760 disks
>>>> and these work well. I know it's possible to do a convert load of
>>>> S550 disks into S760, then convert via CDXtract to EXS24, but this
>>>> is is long process. To add to this, my S760 has suddenly become
>>>> sick and says I only have 1.2 MB RAM - I actually have 32MB. (But
>>>> that's another problem....)
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone come across new (or old) utilities for bringing S550
>>>> sample disks into the 21st century? Something to read and convert
>>>> these precious old treasures.....
>>>>
>>>> Regards - Colin
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Hello,
I'm quite new to the group, & have an old S550 that came without any
samples ...
as I didn't find a way to sell it, I'd like to use it again where it's
good & strong...
You're welcome to tell me where are these strongs points ...
Is there a possibility to copy the Library (or any interesting sounds)
for my unit ?
Please advise,
Patrice.
At 5/4/2008 09:36 AM, chaseman(a)socal.rr.com wrote:
>MOTU's Mach Five ll loads any format and is a fine sampler!
>Gary
>
> > >Has anyone come across new (or old) utilities for bringing S550
> > >sample disks into the 21st century? Something to read and convert
> > >these precious old treasures.....
Is Mach Five multi-timbral though like s-samplers?
Or do you need to load multiple instances?
My favorite s replacement soft sampler so far is DirectWave.
|_e_/ Dennis Barton <db(a)skylab2000.com>
) skylab2000
~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
/ http://skylab2000.com
PS
I just checked and Mach Five only reads S700 series disks - doesn't
mention S550.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>MOTU's Mach Five ll loads any format and is a fine sampler!
>Gary
>
>> >Has anyone come across new (or old) utilities for bringing S550
>> >sample disks into the 21st century? Something to read and convert
> > >these precious old treasures.....
MOTU's Mach Five ll loads any format and is a fine sampler!
Gary
> >Has anyone come across new (or old) utilities for bringing S550
> >sample disks into the 21st century? Something to read and convert
> >these precious old treasures.....
My S770 needs a little love, I need to figure out why the MSX mouse I
have won't work and it has been suggested that it could be issues with
the connections INSIDE. So I figure if I am gonna open it up I would
test everything else first and see when other work it might need. I
usually use my SCSI Jaz disk to save and load samples, but floppy can
be convieneient sometimes. I noticed that no matter what I do I can't
get the internal floppy to read or write to a floppy disk. I am
pretty sure I read somewhere that the 770 will read and write to 1.4Mb
disks. Is this true and what type of floppy drive do I need to
replace the one inside the 770? Can I use any drive or is it Roland
Specific?
Thanks
Does anyone know anything about the type of memory chips (SIMM?) that are required for the SP700? Can they be found cheaply anywhere? Can I use something I might find at an electronics/computer warehouse such as Fry's? I have 16MB installed and from the manual it looks like I need two 8MB SIMMs to brinG it up to the max of 32MB.
- Jeff
